memorable randarts

[Pete Mack]

It's still roughly equivalent to a ring of damage +16...without wasting a ring slot. In my current game I two-fisted RoD for +25 damage,til I finally found a weak speed ring--with 2 real curses +1 useless!--at DL 67. Fortunately I had 4 *remove curse.* One failed at power 62; two succeeded. Meaningless poison curse still remains.

[Estie]

If only it was (+9, +17).

[Jay]

I think these are together the highest bonuses to hit and to damage I've seen on gloves. No attribute bonuses but fortunately I've got enough of those elsewhere.

The Set of Leather Gloves of Tauru (+17, +9) [1, +10]
Provides resistance to Cold, Dark, Sound.
Provides protection from fear.
Cannot be harmed by Acid, Fire.
Sustains dexterity.

[Estie]

So, started a new dwarf priest to play along with the borg. The first artifact I found, at dlvl 17, dropped by Orfax, was Wrath. Which would be worthy of a post except I wanted to set randarts and apparently havent. So I post anyway, and restart.

[Estie]

artifact? or BoS?
artifact boots can have more than 10 Spd.

Anything above 10 speed is either a ring or an artifact.

For some reason above message doesnt count towards the post minimum, so I have to add stuff.

[Ed_47569]

artifact? or BoS?
artifact boots can have more than 10 Spd.

I've seen +14 on randart boots before, but nothing to match standart Feanor (+15). Best RoS I ever found was +22.

[Ed_47569]

Cost is 30K, which is ridiculously low. The cost per se doesn't matter, but this thing should guarantee item LF 8 at least.

It gave a 9 feeling, also found a decent randart RoP next to it in the vault.

[Sky]

Very interesting - but I dont think boots can get more than 10 speed, only rings.

artifact? or BoS?
artifact boots can have more than 10 Spd.

[Pete Mack]

Cost is 30K, which is ridiculously low. The cost per se doesn't matter, but this thing should guarantee item LF 8 at least.

[Ed_47569]

The log for concocting that particular artifact is attached. The target power was 862. It received a supercharged speed bonus of 18 (chance of 5/139 to get that in this case - boots are more likely to get). The base supercharged bonus is 4+1d6 speed. There's a 1/2 chance (not dependent on item type) the base bonus is boosted to 4+1d6+1d3. There's a 1/6 chance (not dependent on item type) that base bonus is boosted to 5+2d6. In this case both bonuses were applied (1/12 chance) for a bonus of 5+2d6+1d3 (1/8 chance of being +18, 1/16 chance of being +19, 1/48 chance of being +20). The speed bonus was later adjusted to +20. The final power of the artifact was 851 with 400 of that coming from the speed bonus. As Estie guessed, the artifact's minimum depth is 100.

Here's the entry from my Randart log...

# Random hafted of power 851
name:'Eitharn'
base-object:hafted:Mace
level:20
weight:120
cost:30000
alloc:17:100 to 127
attack:8d4:7:15
armor:0:2
flags:SUST_DEX | REGEN | SEE_INVIS
values:WIS[1] | TUNNEL[4] | SPEED[20]
values:RES_ACID[1] | RES_ELEC[1] | RES_FIRE[3] | RES_COLD[1]
slay:UNDEAD_3
slayEMON_3
slay:GIANT_3
slay:ORC_3
slay:EVIL_2
brand:POIS_3
actRAGON_MULTIHUED
time:160+4d20
desc:Random hafted of power 851


And yes, it was found at 5000' in a GV, just after killing M.

[Estie]

Hmm I looked at that log; half of the actions are calculating value for the artifact property of being immune to elements. And very particular values - immunity to acid is worth 3, to lightning 1. There is a value assigned for each element and that value is taken into account multiple times in the process of creating the artifact.

This seems not a very economic approach when all we want to achieve is to make artifacts indestructible - there is no need to assign a value to that property if every artifact gets it anyway.

So this is how those early artifacts with no actual properties get created, then.

[Estie]

Very interesting - but I dont think boots can get more than 10 speed, only rings.

4 + 1d6 would fit the boots range; if that is supercharged values, then what do not supercharged speed boots look like ?

Anything above 10 speed is either a ring or an artifact.

[backwardsEric]

The log for concocting that particular artifact is attached. The target power was 862. It received a supercharged speed bonus of 18 (chance of 5/139 to get that in this case - boots are more likely to get). The base supercharged bonus is 4+1d6 speed. There's a 1/2 chance (not dependent on item type) the base bonus is boosted to 4+1d6+1d3. There's a 1/6 chance (not dependent on item type) that base bonus is boosted to 5+2d6. In this case both bonuses were applied (1/12 chance) for a bonus of 5+2d6+1d3 (1/8 chance of being +18, 1/16 chance of being +19, 1/48 chance of being +20). The speed bonus was later adjusted to +20. The final power of the artifact was 851 with 400 of that coming from the speed bonus. As Estie guessed, the artifact's minimum depth is 100.

[Estie]

Occasionally the game creates a weapon with a 4 digit pool worth of attributes.
This weapon has a low probability to be created. It is also likely to have a minimum depth of 100, which makes it extremely unlikely to show up before you kill Morgoth.
Then normally this weapon ends up being not the best weapon in the game; for example, it might be a whip 3d3 base and have a long list of defensive stats.

I have seen (as in, read in the file after the game, not found) many of these and I have never seen double speed. I cant remember having seen ~10 speed either, but I may just not remember it. I assume the chance for +20 speed, provided the game decides to put speed on the weapon and the property pool is high enough, is the the same as for a ring to get +20 speed.

So, sometimes there is an enourmos fish down in the depth. I dont know if thats a bug; but finding big fish is the main reason for me to play, so I wouldnt want them removed.

[PowerWyrm]

Sounds like a bug to me... weapons should not have +20 speed.