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  • Holy_Rage
    Scout
    • Aug 2016
    • 37

    #91
    Rings of Mobility do not always offer Free Action; please check out the runes/item properties before wearing one!

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    • Sideways
      Knight
      • Nov 2008
      • 896

      #92
      I'm getting weird coloring and bad formatting on the birth screen while playing on angband.live. I'm pretty sure I know what's causing this, since Frog used to have the same bug: the early screens are displayed before various Angband-specific things like the proper colors are loaded (and before the first call to TERM_XTRA_REACT), so they use the system's default colors and settings instead.

      Winged dragon of powers should be pluralized as winged dragons of power Same for winged dragon of Ilmens.

      Is that one-way connection between Nan Dungortheb 70 and Doriath 24 supposed to be like that?

      Update on #53: I'm also getting extra @s on levels with dungeon entrances, it seems to happen when I recall to such a level but I've yet to see it when I get there by stairs. The extra @ changes color with regular @ if my HP takes a hit.
      Last edited by Sideways; July 28, 2020, 19:16.
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      • Nick
        Vanilla maintainer
        • Apr 2007
        • 9633

        #93
        Originally posted by Holy_Rage
        Rings of Mobility do not always offer Free Action; please check out the runes/item properties before wearing one!
        OK that's a bug, they should.
        One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
        In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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        • MITZE
          Swordsman
          • Jan 2017
          • 292

          #94
          FirstAge Archery

          I'm going to be starting a Ranger so I'll probably get a better feel for it with a class that's supposed to specialize in ranged damage, but my experience with the rogue tells me--and rodent/Sideways agrees, I think--that the current state of archery feels pretty underpowered; shooting doesn't feel like it does competitive damage, my best numbers have been with branded multiple shots a round, and even then it felt subpar.


          Something that I think might be affecting it--though I might be remembering wrongly--is that as per old FA O-style combat deadliness from non-shooter non-ammo equipment applied to shooting as well as melee, whereas currently it only applies to melee (I'm guessing as a consequence of non-O mechanics).
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          I took nearly two years to win with a single character in PosChengband.

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          • Nick
            Vanilla maintainer
            • Apr 2007
            • 9633

            #95
            Originally posted by MITZE
            Something that I think might be affecting it--though I might be remembering wrongly--is that as per old FA O-style combat deadliness from non-shooter non-ammo equipment applied to shooting as well as melee, whereas currently it only applies to melee (I'm guessing as a consequence of non-O mechanics).
            Yes, archery in O was quite different to V. I'm going to move to more exactly original O-combat at some point, which may mean ditching V-combat altogether.
            One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
            In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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            • Sideways
              Knight
              • Nov 2008
              • 896

              #96
              I'm getting a reproducible crash on trying to re-enter Ephel Brandir here. You can download the files below (thanks to dhouseholder for getting them!) but I think they're probably unnecessary, it seems trying to re-enter any town at night causes a reproducible crash now.
              Attached Files
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              • MITZE
                Swordsman
                • Jan 2017
                • 292

                #97
                RFE: Missing FA stuff

                Didn't see any of this in the existing issues or in the 2.0 milestone stuff on Git, so for the record:


                There are some things from old FA still absent from FirstAge; uniques like The Desperate Adventurer and artifacts like the art devices among them (EDIT: also wands of shrapnel).
                Last edited by MITZE; July 29, 2020, 18:41. Reason: Added something I forgot.
                Everything you need to know about my roguelike playstyle:

                I took nearly two years to win with a single character in PosChengband.

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                • wobbly
                  Prophet
                  • May 2012
                  • 2627

                  #98
                  Inventory bug that's probably in vanilla too. I refueled from a stack of 2 lanterns with a full pack and my long bow dropped out of my pack.

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                  • Sideways
                    Knight
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 896

                    #99
                    Running frequently works in unexpected and often counterproductive ways, especially in the wilderness. It runs past items, runs past road intersections, successfully follows a road if and only if I don't want it to follow that road, and sometimes changes direction by 45 degrees in the middle of nowhere

                    Spider webs don't seem to work in tree areas.

                    Dagmor should be buffed somehow, it's really, really weak with O combat.

                    The average damage/round for unarmed combat doesn't seem to be displayed anywhere, which makes it very hard to compare armed and unarmed options, especially if show_damage is not on.

                    --

                    A few things that would be very nice to have:

                    - digging not auto-repeating if the player has a 0% chance of clearing the obstacle
                    - more transparency in the speciality selection menu (I've had to code-dive to figure out which ones I actually want)
                    - some way to highlight unidentified items on the object list, either through special coloring or by moving them to the top of the list (some way to travel to them automatically would be doubly nice!)
                    - item origins including the location (e.g. Nargothrond or West Beleriand) in addition to the depth
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                    • MITZE
                      Swordsman
                      • Jan 2017
                      • 292

                      Report Batch #13

                      Dark Nagas: "hurt by cold, but resists cold and poison"


                      Jewellery: I've occasionally seen jewellery that have no bonuses or maluses. Rings of Hindrance should probably have their flavor text reworked or be guaranteed to have maluses.
                      Everything you need to know about my roguelike playstyle:

                      I took nearly two years to win with a single character in PosChengband.

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                      • Nick
                        Vanilla maintainer
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9633

                        Originally posted by Sideways
                        RFE: would be very nice to have Exo's patch for producing CharOutput.txt. It's mostly for angband.live, but I think the Frog patch has helped me a couple times offline too.
                        What is this?

                        Originally posted by wobbly
                        Inventory bug that's probably in vanilla too. I refueled from a stack of 2 lanterns with a full pack and my long bow dropped out of my pack.
                        I don't think this is a bug. You can only refuel from one lantern at a time, so doing that unstacks the lanterns, so your inventory is full, which drops the last item.

                        Issues page now fully updated, I believe.
                        One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                        In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                        • wobbly
                          Prophet
                          • May 2012
                          • 2627

                          Originally posted by Nick
                          I don't think this is a bug. You can only refuel from one lantern at a time, so doing that unstacks the lanterns, so your inventory is full, which drops the last item.
                          I disagree. It makes sense for the now empty lantern to drop. I think that is far more intuitive then random item you didn't touch falling out. I certainly expected the empty lantern to drop. I suspect it is what most people would expect too. It is also how things behaved when devices used to unstack. The device droped out, not your healing potions or your scrolls of destruct.

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                          • kheldar
                            Rookie
                            • Jul 2020
                            • 1

                            I have discovered a problem with stairs to other map sections. I have a town that should have 3 exits, east, west and north. The north exit is nowhere to be found. I have explored every cell and removed all the rubble along the north of the map.
                            Attached Files

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                            • Sideways
                              Knight
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 896

                              Originally posted by Nick
                              What is this?
                              Exo's patch (originally written by a user called Exo) is the code for automatically producing output like this every time the game is saved and/or the player's details otherwise change (e.g. they move to a new area - though I think that triggers auto-save in FAA). This is what allows angband.live to show the player's race, class, level and current location and display a red death message when they die.

                              Gwarl is claiming FAA does not actually need Exo's patch since it has V-like savefiles, which in this particular respect are more "readable" than most variant savefiles - but there are some big disadvantages with that approach. Firstly, V doesn't need to include any information about the location besides the depth, and consequently FAA savefiles don't display the full location in plaintext either; but CharOutput would. Secondly, it requires Gwarl to actively do things, and apparently to do them again every time there's a new release - at least one of the recent V releases (4.2.0 or 4.2.1 or maybe both) was missing this information for weeks despite having fully V-like savefiles. Thirdly, including Exo's patch in the game itself allows updating CharOutput more often than the savefile if desirable. Fourthly, Gwarl's approach does not actually include producing a CharOutput.txt, but it's a nice file to have; on angband.live players' CharOutput files are publicly accessible but their savefiles are not, so the CharOutput files allow you to check how other players are doing even if they're not currently online (this would be even more convenient in V, since V does not support checking users' progress through the Hall of Fame).

                              I think I found some use for them offline too debugging something or other, but I forget what that was - maybe I was just debugging CharOutput itself... or it might have been related to possessor code or to discrepancies in what monsters were displayed as having killed the player.

                              The Frog version of Exo's patch (updated by me) is here (it gets called from the save routine and separately on game start), you should be able to adapt it easily or to write new code with the same formatting.

                              Originally posted by wobbly
                              I disagree. It makes sense for the now empty lantern to drop. I think that is far more intuitive then random item you didn't touch falling out. I certainly expected the empty lantern to drop. I suspect it is what most people would expect too. It is also how things behaved when devices used to unstack. The device droped out, not your healing potions or your scrolls of destruct.
                              Agree with wobbly, this is most definitely a bug. There is no way any item but the empty lantern should drop.
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                              • Nick
                                Vanilla maintainer
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 9633

                                Originally posted by kheldar
                                I have discovered a problem with stairs to other map sections. I have a town that should have 3 exits, east, west and north. The north exit is nowhere to be found. I have explored every cell and removed all the rubble along the north of the map.
                                That's a "fixed" bug. Reopening.

                                EDIT: Actually unfixed bug, still not fixed.
                                Last edited by Nick; July 31, 2020, 14:07. Reason: Checked
                                One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                                In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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