Angband 4.0beta status

[Ingwe Ingweron]

Having an immunity notification at the bottom would be possible, but inconsistent with current behaviour, which is that those notifications are only for temporary effects.

I understand it's not a "bug" (aside from the fact that it has always bugged me), but I find it helpful for the main screen to remind me of my resistance status. Immunity trumps temporary resist (ordinarily double-resist since my @ usually has basic protection and then adds a temporary resist). Having the rFIRE indicator on when wearing Narya, for instance, would remind me I don't need to cast a temporary resist or quaff a potion for that resistance.

[Nick]

I'm guessing that building from master and/or playing gcu is the thing causing the chardump parsing problems??? The only thing that Nick, elliptic and I have in common in the chardumps is that we have the commit hash appended to our character dump header tag e.g. [Angband v4.0beta-246-g78905dd Character Dump] Removing the hash doesn't fix the problem, so it's something inherently different with the chardump. I'm too lazy to start diffing things right now.

I'm building from master and using sdl in Linux, so I'm guessing it's some dumb text encoding thing. I'm going to hope Pav just fixes it.

When I go to disarm a trap, (push D) if I wait less than a second before confirming the direction the Repeat(99) thing pops up in the status bar (seems to be entirely cosmetic)

That's the auto-repeat - I guess if you're quick enough it doesn't get to display it. By default it auto-repeats 100 times, but you can actually set a different number by hitting '0', entering a number, and then entering the command.

Is this a "normal angband thing???"

What Ingwe said.

I'm playing 80x25, and it looks like things get cut off on the right of the screen sometimes

e.g. I type (i) to see inventory, I get: "(Inventory) Burden 126.7 lb (6.8 lb overweight). Select Item: (Inven: a-s, / fo" in the top row, and my items are missing the (lb) unit to the right.

Yes, that prompt needs trimming.

I accidentally played the id game and had a salamander breathe fire at me while i was wielding an unided mace (Defender) thing. It said "Your mace glows" with no period at the end, not sure if there was more to that message or if it's just missing the terminator.

Thanks - I knew there was a message that was missing punctuation, and this is it.

[kaypy]

However if I look at my inventory it states:

t) in Quiver: 40 missiles 
u) in Quiver: 9 missiles

Would it be better UI if we instead said something like?

t) 49 missiles in 2 Quiver slots
u) ...

[Ingwe Ingweron]

Would it be better UI if we instead said something like? ....

Personally, I don't think so. I've gotten used to how many letter slots there are in inventory. Having each quiver of 40 use up a slot is a good visual reminder of the slots being used up by quivers and how many slots are available for other items.

[Ingwe Ingweron]

Angband 4.0 dev 756c3bc

Information leak. With ESP, upon first arrival on level, Monster sub window shows awareness of Uniques on the other side of the level. I've noticed this leak in several dev versions.

No savefile since the information disappears the next move, or upon reload, so not able to duplicate simply with savefile.

Oddly enough, this bug also has a flip-side (or perhaps a separate bug). Upon first arrival on level, Monster sub window shows awareness of monsters in ESP range EXCEPT the Unique standing right next to @. Again, information corrected on next move or upon reload (but not corrected with redraw).

[kaypy]

Personally, I don't think so. I've gotten used to how many letter slots there are in inventory. Having each quiver of 40 use up a slot is a good visual reminder of the slots being used up by quivers and how many slots are available for other items.

I may not have been clear enough: It should still show the additional slots

t) 32 missiles using 1 Quiver slot

vs

t) 49 missiles using 2 Quiver slots
u) ...

vs

t) 83 missiles using 3 Quiver slots
u) ...
v) ...

[Ingwe Ingweron]

I may not have been clear enough: It should still show the additional slots ...

I still don't find your proposal as helpful to me as the current system, and here's why: With the current system, 40 is one full quiver and having the remainder in a new slot just makes it easier for me to see how much I have to drop to keep it down to just one slot. E.g., 40, 18 = drop 18 to maintain one slot for ammo vs. 58 in 2 quiver slots, 58-18=40 so drop 18. Or, e.g., 40, 40, 9 = drop 9 to maintain two slots for ammo vs. 89 in 3 quiver slots, 89-9=80 so drop 9 for 2 quiver slots or let's see...there's 40 capacity per slot so 89-40=49-9=40 for 1 quiver slot.... With your system I have to do the math. With the current system the math is already done. While with your proposal the math is simple enough, not having to even think about it whatsoever is just easier.

[Nick]

Update 6dc5445 fixes:

• Crash when something was bought that stacked with something in the inventory or quiver
• Randarts (probably all DSMs) with 0 activation recharge time
• Monster list updating incorrectly on level change

[kaypy]

With the current system the math is already done. While with your proposal the math is simple enough, not having to even think about it whatsoever is just easier.

Good point. Hmm. Throwing out another random idea to be shot down:

...
q) various
r) other
s) equipment
Quiver Slots (40 missiles each) :
t) 40 missiles
u) 8 missiles

It needs an extra line... Does it make anything clearer?

[tumbleweed]

Angband 4.0 dev 7c315aa

It's too bad we have to wait a few days for an update, because there's a significant but unknown crash bug!

Upload the save file and take one step to the right - CRASH!

I've no idea why. Given the recent fix to the mimic leaks, possibly the mimic crash is rearing its ugly head again? [ATTACH]1252[/ATTACH]

I grabbed that file, played for a couple turns with a version of the game that I sadly cannot recall exactly, then exited.

The resulting save causes angband-win-v4.0beta-260-g6dc5445 (and possibly other versions) to fail the following assertion:

File: load.c
Line: 297

Expression: square_obj

Afterwards the game complains:

Cannot place monster 5
Savefile corrupted - Couldn't load block monsters

[wobbly]

I find it fairly clear as is. I've gotten so used to poschen where I have more slots (& conveniently ends in z) that I have to think for a bit about how much space I have left. I'd be more interested in adding in the empty slots (<empty>) to the display so I can see at a glance how many free slots I have.

[Nick]

I grabbed that file, played for a couple turns with a version of the game that I sadly cannot recall exactly, then exited.

The resulting save causes angband-win-v4.0beta-260-g6dc5445 (and possibly other versions) to fail the following assertion:

File: load.c
Line: 297

Expression: square_obj

Afterwards the game complains:

Cannot place monster 5
Savefile corrupted - Couldn't load block monsters

There was a savefile break not long ago - that may be the problem here, depending which version it was you played. In any case, the original problem with that original savefile is definitely fixed.

[tumbleweed]

There was a savefile break not long ago - that may be the problem here, depending which version it was you played. In any case, the original problem with that original savefile is definitely fixed.

Yeah I'm aware. The original savefile as posted by Ingwe Ingweron definitely works fine for me edit: with beta 260 though, so it's from after the savefile break.

Either way, in my opinion no program should ever fail an assertion as that's a sign of something completely and utterly unexpected going on.

I'd suggest starting to store the savefile format version and maybe even the game version that wrote the save, next time you break savefiles, so older and obviously incompatible savefiles can be gracefully rejected.


Anyway, here's another issue, to keep you properly entertained:

angband-win-v4.0beta-260-g6dc5445

• If the pack is full but the quiver is empty, it is still possible to pick up or purchase missiles - causing the pack to overflow and the last item to be dropped (upon leaving the store, if applicable).

[tumbleweed]

Some old issues that are still in angband-win-v4.0beta-260-g6dc5445:

• Recharging via scroll or spell does not produce a message about the result, even if the target item is an identified one, unless the recharging attempt fails. (Should be e.g. "You have 3 Scrolls of Recharging. You have a Wand of Teleport Other (7 charges).")
• Trying to access the help via menu Help->Contents from the title screen does nothing, despite the menu item not being grayed out. Amazingly enough, if you start a new game via File->New or Ctrl+N afterwards, you actually end up on the Help screen!
• If you start a new game, File->New and File->Open... remain enabled and give error messages, rather than being disabled entirely (as they are after character creation is finished)

[Ingwe Ingweron]

Angband 4.0 dev 6dc5445

A bunch of known wall tiles and some of the character information (e.g., Str 18 [blank]7) just went blank immediately after using the [l]ook command. It was corrected with a redraw.