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  • AnonymousHero
    Veteran
    • Jun 2007
    • 1393

    Originally posted by debo
    Side note: when did the town get the new weird layout? Is that a 4.0 thing or did I snooze through several updates?
    It's a 4.0 thing... and personally I like it.

    (AFAIUI, it's a sort of portent of what's about to come in the dungeon in future 4.x releases, but doesn't change any actual gameplay -- as was the goal for 4.0. Kudos to whoever though that up!)

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    • MattB
      Veteran
      • Mar 2013
      • 1214

      Originally posted by Thraalbeast
      You have found something" ?Word of Wisdom.
      Er...what's one of them, then?
      Sounds good!

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      • Nick
        Vanilla maintainer
        • Apr 2007
        • 9633

        Update 756c3be fixes:
        • Charges getting lost on dropping devices in the home
        • "You were wearing..." message restored
        • File paths appearing in messages
        • Dropping messages get the number of charges right
        • Memory leak in vault parsing
        • Duplicate slays/brands
        • Autoinscription message referring to the wrong number of items


        Mostly message improvement this time; that last one also involved a fairly major change to how objects are deleted. I am hoping might be an aid to crash prevention, so please do report any crashes, and also any remaining weirdness with messages.

        The main issues I'm aware of unfixed are the running past objects/monsters/traps/trap detect edge bug, and speed, AC etc displays failing to update.
        One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
        In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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        • Ingwe Ingweron
          Veteran
          • Jan 2009
          • 2129

          Angband 4.0 dev 756c3bc

          New Quiver Command [|] issues:

          1. “You have nothing in your quiver” with [|] command when first slot is empty.
          See the attached savefile. In mid-combat with Sauron, @ has fired all arrows from the first and second quiver slots, leaving a few slots with some pathetic Slay Demon and Slay Dragon arrows. Look at the quiver with the [.] command from the inventory or equipment menus and you will see the arrows. However, try looking at the quiver with the new [|] command and you will get a message saying, "You have nothing in your quiver."174.zip

          2. Can’t look at quiver with the new [|] command while in home.

          3. For consistency (once the new [|] command bugs are worked out), it would be nice to replace the [.] command in the inventory and equipment menus with the [|] command.
          “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
          ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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          • Ingwe Ingweron
            Veteran
            • Jan 2009
            • 2129

            Competition Ladder.

            Affecting both Elliptic and Nick, their posts to the Competition ladder have three errors not affecting the other participants: (1) the character names have the Age appended (a bug that was addressed previously, but for some reason is affecting only these two); (2) max experience shown as "0"; and (3) max depth shown as "0".

            The OSX build (builds, since I've used three since the comp began) don't have this problem. Is it the Windows or some other build that is the cause, or some other bug entirely?

            EDIT: Correction, it is Turncount and Max Depth that are not being recorded.
            Last edited by Ingwe Ingweron; May 23, 2015, 23:45.
            “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
            ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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            • debo
              Veteran
              • Oct 2011
              • 2402

              Originally posted by Ingwe Ingweron
              Competition Ladder.

              Affecting both Elliptic and Nick, their posts to the Competition ladder have three errors not affecting the other participants: (1) the character names have the Age appended (a bug that was addressed previously, but for some reason is affecting only these two); (2) max experience shown as "0"; and (3) max depth shown as "0".

              The OSX build (builds, since I've used three since the comp began) don't have this problem. Is it the Windows or some other build that is the cause, or some other bug entirely?
              I already pinged Pav about this. I'm guessing it's a line terminator / tab / other whitespace thing, since I believe both elliptic and nick play on Linux (probably gcu in both cases, but I doubt that matters.)
              Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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              • maboleth
                Rookie
                • Sep 2009
                • 22

                I know v4.0 is mostly a framework upgrade and fixing obvious bugs, without the new content.

                BUT

                Have you seen/considered the brand new Shockbolt tiles? The guy is working his ass off to produce the most beautiful tiles Angband ever had. And his goal is to complete the entire tile set soon. That means, no more upscaled David Gervais 32px tiles mixed in a Shockbolt's 64x64 tileset.

                So... If devs need any help with assigning, I'm willing to help.
                Last edited by maboleth; May 23, 2015, 23:51.

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                • Ingwe Ingweron
                  Veteran
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 2129

                  Angband 4.0 dev 756c3bc

                  Information leak. With ESP, upon first arrival on level, Monster sub window shows awareness of Uniques on the other side of the level. I've noticed this leak in several dev versions.

                  No savefile since the information disappears the next move, or upon reload, so not able to duplicate simply with savefile.
                  “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
                  ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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                  • Ingwe Ingweron
                    Veteran
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 2129

                    Angband 4.0 dev 756c3bc

                    Missing messages: Missing “You resist the effects …” message when immune to the element.

                    (Also, another plug for providing the Resistance flag at bottom of main screen for Immunity as it does currently for temporary resist.)
                    “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
                    ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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                    • Darin
                      Apprentice
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 53

                      purchase arrows and add to quiver crash

                      Angband 4.0 dev 756c3bc

                      From the enclosed saved game, go into the weapon shop, buy 24 arrows (j), which already exist in my quiver, and after confirming the purchase it crashes. I am on Mac OS X if that makes a difference
                      Attached Files

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                      • Nick
                        Vanilla maintainer
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9633

                        Originally posted by Darin
                        Angband 4.0 dev 756c3bc

                        From the enclosed saved game, go into the weapon shop, buy 24 arrows (j), which already exist in my quiver, and after confirming the purchase it crashes. I am on Mac OS X if that makes a difference
                        Thanks - this is resulting in a potential crash for any bought item which stacks with something in the player's inventory or quiver. Will be fixed next update.
                        One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                        In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                        • Nick
                          Vanilla maintainer
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9633

                          Originally posted by Ingwe Ingweron
                          Angband 4.0 dev 756c3bc

                          Missing messages: Missing “You resist the effects …” message when immune to the element.

                          (Also, another plug for providing the Resistance flag at bottom of main screen for Immunity as it does currently for temporary resist.)
                          This is actually not an error - this message is for elemental attacks with side-effects, like blindness from light and dark attacks. There are no such effects from the basic elements, so there is never a message for them.

                          Having an immunity notification at the bottom would be possible, but inconsistent with current behaviour, which is that those notifications are only for temporary effects.
                          One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                          In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                          • debo
                            Veteran
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 2402

                            Few small things:

                            - I'm guessing that building from master and/or playing gcu is the thing causing the chardump parsing problems??? The only thing that Nick, elliptic and I have in common in the chardumps is that we have the commit hash appended to our character dump header tag e.g. [Angband v4.0beta-246-g78905dd Character Dump] Removing the hash doesn't fix the problem, so it's something inherently different with the chardump. I'm too lazy to start diffing things right now.

                            - When I go to disarm a trap, (push D) if I wait less than a second before confirming the direction the Repeat(99) thing pops up in the status bar (seems to be entirely cosmetic)

                            - If I go into my inventory (i) and then hit (.) for quiver, I have:

                            Code:
                            a) 30 Arrows (1d4) (+0,+0)      6.0
                            b) 19 Arrows (1d4) (+4,+1)      3.8
                            However if I look at my inventory it states:

                            Code:
                            t) in Quiver: 40 missiles 
                            u) in Quiver: 9 missiles
                            Is this a "normal angband thing???"

                            - I'm playing 80x25, and it looks like things get cut off on the right of the screen sometimes

                            e.g. I type (i) to see inventory, I get: "(Inventory) Burden 126.7 lb (6.8 lb overweight). Select Item: (Inven: a-s, / fo" in the top row, and my items are missing the (lb) unit to the right.

                            - I accidentally played the id game and had a salamander breathe fire at me while i was wielding an unided mace (Defender) thing. It said "Your mace glows" with no period at the end, not sure if there was more to that message or if it's just missing the terminator.
                            Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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                            • Darin
                              Apprentice
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 53

                              Originally posted by Nick
                              Thanks - this is resulting in a potential crash for any bought item which stacks with something in the player's inventory or quiver. Will be fixed next update.
                              Thank you for looking into this. The annoying workaround for the moment is to drop anything you want to stock up on outside the store and after purchase exit the store and step on the item to restack them.

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                              • Ingwe Ingweron
                                Veteran
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 2129

                                Originally posted by debo
                                - If I go into my inventory (i) and then hit (.) for quiver, I have:

                                Code:
                                a) 30 Arrows (1d4) (+0,+0)      6.0
                                b) 19 Arrows (1d4) (+4,+1)      3.8
                                However if I look at my inventory it states:

                                Code:
                                t) in Quiver: 40 missiles 
                                u) in Quiver: 9 missiles
                                Is this a "normal angband thing???"
                                This is correct. The quiver is showing what ammunition type and how much of each in up to 10 quiver slots. The inventory is showing the inventory slots taken up by any ammunition, up to 40 missiles per slot. I.e., a quiver holds 40 missiles. When you exceed 40, you must carry another quiver. Each quiver takes up one inventory slot. However, no matter how many overflow "quivers" you carry, you may only carry 10 types of ammunition.
                                “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
                                ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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