Angband 4.0beta status

[Nick]

When looking at your inventory in a store/home the store/home inventory is blacked out behind the first quiver slot but visible behind any subsequent slots which gets confusing when the lines run together.

Is this in the most recent versions? It was a bug before that I thought I'd fixed, and it still seems fixed when I test it.

[MattB]

Update 6e285e6 implements PowerWyrm's latest fixes, and attempts to fix the flicker problem - please report back on flicker status.

When it's actually up, of course.

Much, much, much better - thank you so much.
Like I said before, it is really appreciated.

[Nomad]

A reproducible bit of behaviour that may give some insight into the run past bug: in 3.5, if you try to run when there's an awake monster in line of sight, you'll only step one square in that direction. But in 4.0, you nearly always move two squares before you stop. (Thus giving the monster two moves in succession while you're running.)

(I'm still playing 4c26520 at the moment, but I'm assuming the running behaviour won't have changed.)

[Nick]

Update 6e285e6 implements PowerWyrm's latest fixes, and attempts to fix the flicker problem - please report back on flicker status.

When it's actually up, of course.

[Nomad]

Just got a crash in 4c26520, not sure exactly why. The last thing I did was step on a summoning trap (which must have been created by a monster when I wasn't paying attention, since it was a corridor I'd walked along earlier). The summons that I saw were Beorn and an orc captain, but I didn't have See Invisible equipped so there may have been something else there too. The crash was just a generic "Angband.exe has stopped working".

[Derakon]

Sounds like a double-buffering problem to me. Not that I've even glanced at the drawing code.

[MattB]

Is this only since the last update? I was a bit worried about flicker - a couple of the solutions I tried actually had more...

Yep, just since the last update. Every movement causes a noticable redraw. It's a bit like those early Edwardian 'What the Butler Saw' flicks (only I doubt any butler ever saw what my Half-Troll Ranger was doing to some poor kobolds...)

[Nick]

What is the "something else" that triggers a drop? Clearly it's not movement, melee, leaving a store, or any number of other things I've tried. It looks to me like the only way to get rid of an {ignored} item in @'s pack is to manually drop it. What am I missing? Is this intended?

Certain actions will trigger the game to check through your gear to see if there's anything that can be ignored and dropped. The main one is picking something up, but also getting pseudo-ID, inscribing something, uninscribing something, wielding something, and so on.

[Nick]

...this latest update is unplayable for me, I'm afraid. Using Windows7 and Shockbolt, the flicker is so intense that after 10 minutes of playing my eyes are literally starting to ache! So I've had to stop playing tonight.
It may even be dangerous to certain players with, e.g., epilepsy (*warning* - utterly non-medical opinion here).

Is this only since the last update? I was a bit worried about flicker - a couple of the solutions I tried actually had more...

[MattB]

Update 1f03be2 fixes:

• All the tile redraw problems, I think - I was aiming to fix the detached heads thing, and seem to have accidentally fixed the cursor issue as well.
• Non-use of the plural for noticing brand on multiple bolts
• Crash from selling ignored stuff to a shop - the fix is not to drop it, which means it's carried until something else triggers a drop (or you drop it manually)

The artifact knowledge thing is definitely a bug, and tehre is likely an easy fix, but I haven't verified it yet. The windows closing thing - I'll have a look and see if I can do anything. Randart star with no activation - I thought I had made that impossible, apparently not.

Love what your doing, Nick - much, much gratitude!

However...

...this latest update is unplayable for me, I'm afraid. Using Windows7 and Shockbolt, the flicker is so intense that after 10 minutes of playing my eyes are literally starting to ache! So I've had to stop playing tonight.
It may even be dangerous to certain players with, e.g., epilepsy (*warning* - utterly non-medical opinion here).

Am I the only one with this problem? If so, it must be my computer deciding that I've spent far too much time playing Angband recently.

[Ingwe Ingweron]

... the fix is not to drop it, which means it's carried until something else triggers a drop (or you drop it manually)....

What is the "something else" that triggers a drop? Clearly it's not movement, melee, leaving a store, or any number of other things I've tried. It looks to me like the only way to get rid of an {ignored} item in @'s pack is to manually drop it. What am I missing? Is this intended?

Edit: Okay, I'm mystified. Sometimes when I ignore something it drops right away, sometimes it stays in the pack until I manually drop. I'll have to pay more attention to exactly what the differences are.

[Jungle_Boy]

When looking at your inventory in a store/home the store/home inventory is blacked out behind the first quiver slot but visible behind any subsequent slots which gets confusing when the lines run together.

[Jungle_Boy]

Here's a bug related to the artifact knowledge menu. It seems artifacts are being added when they are generated rather then when they are found, as there are several artifacts in the knowledge menu for my current game that I have not found.

Also in the Unique monster knowledge menu it says I know 36 uniques and have killed 20 but if you look in the player history I've actually killed just over 50 but most of them do not show up in the menu.

I had copied my save file to another computer when I noticed these issues. After copying my save file back to the original computer the unique monster knowledge is correct but the artifact menu still has extras.

[Jungle_Boy]

Do you play windows OS and exit by clicking on the 'X' in the corner? (As I keep doing, even though I know I shouldn't)

I am playing on Windows but I almost always use ctrl-x to close. I won't say every time but it's very close to that.

[Nick]

Update 1f03be2 fixes:

• All the tile redraw problems, I think - I was aiming to fix the detached heads thing, and seem to have accidentally fixed the cursor issue as well.
• Non-use of the plural for noticing brand on multiple bolts
• Crash from selling ignored stuff to a shop - the fix is not to drop it, which means it's carried until something else triggers a drop (or you drop it manually)

The artifact knowledge thing is definitely a bug, and tehre is likely an easy fix, but I haven't verified it yet. The windows closing thing - I'll have a look and see if I can do anything. Randart star with no activation - I thought I had made that impossible, apparently not.