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  • Derakon
    Prophet
    • Dec 2009
    • 9022

    Originally posted by Estie
    Its rare that an off weapon brand is useful. The majority are not very helpful (slay animal or poison brand), or already coverd by the same brand present on the weapon, or simply worse than standard options for the slot, like your case.
    Are you kidding? Glaive of Pain + Ring of Acid was a very standard combination back in the days when elemental rings gave elemental brands in melee. Those 9d6 damage dice get an impressive boost, making the brand an effective Ring of Damage (+62) on average. ...in retrospect, that makes it pretty obvious why off-weapon brands got made vastly more rare.

    Of course, the Glaive of Pain isn't available in a randarts game, but even a puny 2d5 Longsword gets an extra 12 damage/blow on average, which is quite respectable from the amulet slot.

    Acid brand is also pretty reliable; there's many dangerous enemies that aren't resistant to acid. Sauron is of course the most notable of these. I mean, yes, many brands are not as helpful. The only really useful ones in the endgame are acid, evil, undead, demon, and maybe dragon -- which leaves poison, frost, fire, electricity, animal, orc, troll, giant...what am I forgetting? Anyway, there's plenty of non-useful brands. But that doesn't mean that all off-weapon brands are useless.

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    • Estie
      Veteran
      • Apr 2008
      • 2347

      Originally posted by Derakon
      Are you kidding? Glaive of Pain + Ring of Acid was a very standard combination back in the days when elemental rings gave elemental brands in melee. Those 9d6 damage dice get an impressive boost, making the brand an effective Ring of Damage (+62) on average. ...in retrospect, that makes it pretty obvious why off-weapon brands got made vastly more rare.

      Of course, the Glaive of Pain isn't available in a randarts game, but even a puny 2d5 Longsword gets an extra 12 damage/blow on average, which is quite respectable from the amulet slot.

      Acid brand is also pretty reliable; there's many dangerous enemies that aren't resistant to acid. Sauron is of course the most notable of these. I mean, yes, many brands are not as helpful. The only really useful ones in the endgame are acid, evil, undead, demon, and maybe dragon -- which leaves poison, frost, fire, electricity, animal, orc, troll, giant...what am I forgetting? Anyway, there's plenty of non-useful brands. But that doesn't mean that all off-weapon brands are useless.
      No, not all off weapon brands are always useless. But why do you state that in such a way as to make it look like it contradicts my post ?
      All I am saying is that I often find off-weapon brands in my randart games, but that I rarely end up using them because most of the time, other items are better in that slot. Rare != never.

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      • PowerWyrm
        Prophet
        • Apr 2008
        • 2987

        Today I have found the Robe of Helen. No wonder why she goes outside so lightly clothed: it gives her immunity to cold!
        PWMAngband variant maintainer - check https://github.com/draconisPW/PWMAngband (or http://www.mangband.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=9) to learn more about this new variant!

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        • Grotug
          Veteran
          • Nov 2013
          • 1637

          The levels beyond 100 were quite interesting. One I started in a very large lava cavern filled with dozens of greater demons. Later I found the Arkenstone of Gatang (+8, +7) which provides immunity to cold and rPoison. Between this, and the Cloak of Tiriand I found (+4, +7) my Long Sword 'Naenya' of extra attacks <+2> (+12, +21) (4d5) I'm doing 900 to not rPois, almost 800 to others, 1200+ to Undead and that's before I self haste and put on a RoD.
          Beginner's Guide to Angband 4.2.3 Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9c9e2wMngM

          Detailed account of my Ironman win here.

          "My guess is that Grip and Fang have many more kills than Gothmog and Lungorthin." --Fizzix

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          • Grotug
            Veteran
            • Nov 2013
            • 1637



            And Grotug wins the thread.
            Last edited by Grotug; March 4, 2017, 13:14. Reason: Edited with an actually memorable Randart.
            Beginner's Guide to Angband 4.2.3 Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9c9e2wMngM

            Detailed account of my Ironman win here.

            "My guess is that Grip and Fang have many more kills than Gothmog and Lungorthin." --Fizzix

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            • Nomad
              Knight
              • Sep 2010
              • 958

              Not bad for the first randart my warrior found this game:

              Code:
              a) the Main Gauche of Earada (1d5) (+18,+15)
                   Dropped by a young black dragon at 1550 feet (level 31)
                   
                   Slays undead (powerfully), demons (powerfully), giants, animals.
                   Branded with fire.
                   Provides protection from blindness.
                   Cannot be harmed by acid.
                   Grants telepathy.  
                   
                   When activated, it grants temporary resistance to poison for
                   1d10+10 turns.
                   Takes 33 to 36 turns to recharge.
                   Your chance of success is 94.2%

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              • Estie
                Veteran
                • Apr 2008
                • 2347

                Holy thats nice. But mark my words, you are going to despise it ere the helm of telepathy is found.

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                • Antoine
                  Ironband/Quickband Maintainer
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 1010

                  That thing of Grotug's is quite strong

                  A.
                  Ironband - http://angband.oook.cz/ironband/

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                  • Sky
                    Veteran
                    • Oct 2016
                    • 2321

                    well, i found a mace of distruption (12d8), +1 str, NO slays or brands.
                    and then i found a cloak of acid brand. 1100 dmg x round.


                    it's funny to note that if you have an off-weapon brand, and you wield a weapon with "weak" brand, you will get a text saying "xx damage vs acid, xx damage vs acid", with two different values.
                    "i can take this dracolich"

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                    • AnonymousHero
                      Veteran
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 1393

                      Originally posted by Grotug


                      And Grotug wins the thread.
                      Meh, not even close. Well, actually it's quite close . I think I had a +2 attacks ring and another +1 attacks ring... on a Priest. (Can't remember if I actually found them, but... whatever.)

                      EDIT: Also, this. Look at the penultimate post.

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                      • Sky
                        Veteran
                        • Oct 2016
                        • 2321

                        the Ring of Adamant 'Uilmas' <+4, +3, +11>
                        ------------------------------------------
                        +4 strength.
                        +3 intelligence.
                        +11 dexterity.
                        +3 light.
                        Provides immunity to cold.
                        Provides resistance to acid, light, dark, chaos.
                        Provides protection from fear, confusion.
                        Cannot be harmed by lightning.
                        Sustains intelligence.
                        Slows your metabolism. Speeds regeneration. Prevents paralysis. Sustains
                        your life force.
                        Radius 3 light.

                        When activated, it brands bolts with fire, in an unbalanced fashion.
                        Takes 205 to 325 turns to recharge.
                        Your chance of success is 74.7%


                        Min Level 78, Max Level 127, Generation chance 1, Power 463, 0.2 lbs
                        Based on Nenya.
                        "i can take this dracolich"

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                        • kandrc
                          Swordsman
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 299

                          I just got this game-breaking randart:

                          Code:
                          g) Power Dragon Scale Mail (Dwarven) (-3) [60,+33] <+1, +2, +5>
                               Found lying on the floor in a vault at 4950 feet (level 99)
                               
                               +1 strength.
                               +2 constitution.
                               +5 infravision.
                               Provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, cold, poison, light,
                               dark, sound, shards, chaos, disenchantment.
                               Provides protection from confusion.
                               Prevents paralysis.

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                          • Sky
                            Veteran
                            • Oct 2016
                            • 2321

                            pffft. only +1 str ?
                            sell it.
                            "i can take this dracolich"

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                            • Nick
                              Vanilla maintainer
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9647

                              Originally posted by kandrc
                              I just got this game-breaking randart:

                              Code:
                              g) Power Dragon Scale Mail (Dwarven) (-3) [60,+33] <+1, +2, +5>
                                   Found lying on the floor in a vault at 4950 feet (level 99)
                                   
                                   +1 strength.
                                   +2 constitution.
                                   +5 infravision.
                                   Provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, cold, poison, light,
                                   dark, sound, shards, chaos, disenchantment.
                                   Provides protection from confusion.
                                   Prevents paralysis.
                              That's not a randart, that's an ego-item
                              One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                              In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                              • kandrc
                                Swordsman
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 299

                                Originally posted by Nick
                                That's not a randart, that's an ego-item
                                I know. That's what makes it funny.

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