Poschengband game mechanic questions

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  • wobbly
    Prophet
    • May 2012
    • 2628

    How are multiple blows calculated in poschengband? I just switched from a 8.0 lb Short sword to a 10.0 lb Ninjato expecting my no. of blows to go down for the heavier weapon. Instead it went up from 1.9 to 2.1. Neither are egos, I'm beginner in the short sword, unskilled in the Ninjato, STR 18/30, DEX 18, draconian warrior-mage.

    Edit: Is this just the fact I can double-hand the Ninjato? where the short sword is a 1-hnder

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    • chris
      PosChengband Maintainer
      • Jan 2008
      • 702

      Originally posted by wobbly
      How are multiple blows calculated in poschengband? I just switched from a 8.0 lb Short sword to a 10.0 lb Ninjato expecting my no. of blows to go down for the heavier weapon. Instead it went up from 1.9 to 2.1. Neither are egos, I'm beginner in the short sword, unskilled in the Ninjato, STR 18/30, DEX 18, draconian warrior-mage.

      Edit: Is this just the fact I can double-hand the Ninjato? where the short sword is a 1-hnder
      Short answer: Yes, wielding two-handed can increase the number of blows.

      Long answer: Calculating number of blows is complicated (see calculate_base_blows). Just keep in mind that strength and dex help, and that lighter weapons usually get more blows as well. Also, two-handed wielding increases the strength aspect of the calculation.

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      • HugoVirtuoso
        Veteran
        • Jan 2012
        • 1237

        More bugs:
        Female Mimic characters...sex does not return back to female when you Stop Mimicking monsters!!

        And Mimics start the game with "zero" mana. e.g. my Mighty Mimic, "Cherish 94" started the game with 0/12 mana.
        Last edited by HugoVirtuoso; May 10, 2015, 17:37.
        My best try at PosChengband 7.0.0's nightmare-mode on Angband.live:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwAR0WOphUA

        If I'm offline I'm probably in the middle of maintaining Gentoo or something-Linux or other.

        As of February 18th, 2022, my YouTube username is MidgardVirtuoso

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        • krazyhades
          Swordsman
          • Jun 2013
          • 428

          I've been hanging around in a roguelike thread on another site and getting some folks into PosChengband. It's generally well-liked, but a few people have had serious serious trouble getting a Ring going. I tried it myself, and I think there's something wrong. It's been damn near impossible to get picked up by anybody...they all see you as you really are. Even blubbering idiots.

          I recall when Rings were first released that one could easily tempt a townsperson or novice archer or whatever into picking you up. This is certainly not true right now. It is nearly impossible to find a first bearer. What happened? It's frustrating.
          Last edited by krazyhades; May 10, 2015, 19:26.

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          • HugoVirtuoso
            Veteran
            • Jan 2012
            • 1237

            Hmm...I don't think Rings have changed much. Now that I have a bit more time, I'll test a new one for 3.4.4 later
            My best try at PosChengband 7.0.0's nightmare-mode on Angband.live:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwAR0WOphUA

            If I'm offline I'm probably in the middle of maintaining Gentoo or something-Linux or other.

            As of February 18th, 2022, my YouTube username is MidgardVirtuoso

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            • wobbly
              Prophet
              • May 2012
              • 2628

              I've just tried several times. I wasn't being picked up at 18/10 or 18/20 chr. Smeagol disappointingly didn't even consider me. By forcing 18/30 chr (you'll need to be fearless or mighty) I got immediate success both goes.

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              • wobbly
                Prophet
                • May 2012
                • 2628

                Originally posted by HugoTheGreat2011
                Hmm...I don't think Rings have changed much. Now that I have a bit more time, I'll test a new one for 3.4.4 later
                My guess is this:

                Originally posted by chris
                I new minor version (3.4.4) is available
                Game Changes
                * Monster saving throws now use a competing dice approach
                Edit: Got a craven ring going with 12 chr but it took an annoyingly long time.

                Last edited by wobbly; May 10, 2015, 20:34.

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                • wobbly
                  Prophet
                  • May 2012
                  • 2628

                  Played a couple more turns & finding it odd as a ring-bearer that I can't 'w'ield weapons & armour.

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                  • krazyhades
                    Swordsman
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 428

                    It seems like they especially don't like active Glitering, at least at level 1
                    Last edited by krazyhades; May 10, 2015, 22:40.

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                    • chris
                      PosChengband Maintainer
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 702

                      Looks like things got broken here. I pushed a simple fix here.

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                      • chris
                        PosChengband Maintainer
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 702

                        Since rings are broken so badly and I'm not sure when the next release will be forthcoming, I pushed a quick patch for Windows. With this patch you get the fix for glittering rings as well as a few minor fixes in the curses port (e.g. the backspace key now works). Also, the requested patch for the object display command (']') listed in another thread.

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                        • budswell
                          Adept
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 159

                          Hi, a question on Weapon Skills and dual wielding.

                          My current beserker has a blade of chaos in slot (a) and a sabre in slot (b).
                          But my skills are:
                          Blade of Chaos: Expert
                          Sabre: Beginner
                          Dual Wielding: Expert

                          So wondering why the Sabre skill has not improved at all. Does the (b) slot weapon not improve skills? Or does dual wielding only improve one weapon?

                          Other info which may (or may not) be relavent:
                          - I have been dual wielding the whole time
                          - There wasn't too much time between when I picked up both weapons. About 2 character levels - in the mid 20s, I'm now 35
                          - The sabre is not normal, its "Armageddon 5d8" (woo hoo!)
                          http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-browse.php?e=budswell
                          http://te4.org/user/1471/characters

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                          • HugoVirtuoso
                            Veteran
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 1237

                            Forgot to mention this:
                            After losing pet (and/or getting off pet), Ring characters may still display 'Riding' on bottom of screen.
                            My best try at PosChengband 7.0.0's nightmare-mode on Angband.live:
                            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwAR0WOphUA

                            If I'm offline I'm probably in the middle of maintaining Gentoo or something-Linux or other.

                            As of February 18th, 2022, my YouTube username is MidgardVirtuoso

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                            • chris
                              PosChengband Maintainer
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 702

                              Originally posted by budswell
                              Hi, a question on Weapon Skills and dual wielding.

                              My current beserker has a blade of chaos in slot (a) and a sabre in slot (b).
                              But my skills are:
                              Blade of Chaos: Expert
                              Sabre: Beginner
                              Dual Wielding: Expert

                              So wondering why the Sabre skill has not improved at all. Does the (b) slot weapon not improve skills? Or does dual wielding only improve one weapon?

                              Other info which may (or may not) be relavent:
                              - I have been dual wielding the whole time
                              - There wasn't too much time between when I picked up both weapons. About 2 character levels - in the mid 20s, I'm now 35
                              - The sabre is not normal, its "Armageddon 5d8" (woo hoo!)
                              You are probably killing everything with your first weapon, never giving your off hand weapon a chance to actually attack. Weapon skills improve only when you actually attack with that weapon, so if the first hand kills, the second hand never gets a chance to actually train. You could swap the order of your weapons to build up sabre skills, and then swap back if, for some reason such as vamp, you really want the blade of chaos first.

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                              • chris
                                PosChengband Maintainer
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 702

                                Originally posted by HugoTheGreat2011
                                Forgot to mention this:
                                After losing pet (and/or getting off pet), Ring characters may still display 'Riding' on bottom of screen.
                                Thanks. I know there have been lots of unaddressed bug reports accumulating. At some point, I will scour the threads for them ... I promise!

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