4.0.4 bugs

[Nick]

(1) Ring of the Mouse always seems to have zero to-hit penalty and only a to-dam penalty. I seem to remember they used to have a to-hit penalty, too.

No, they haven't changed since 3.5.1.

(2) The graphics re-drawing bug pointed out a couple versions ago still exists: When @ auto-run takes me across a new screen to the left, the screen re-draw happens from the right side, and during the crossover, it looks like @ crossed into a totally different region. There was a bug post by someone else on this a couple versions ago. I'll see if I can find it, with screenshot.

Yes, this still needs fixing - I've been seeing it too.

(3) Can't sell Wand of Light or Wand of Lightning Bolts back to magic shop for recharging. Is this by design or on purpose?

On purpose - when no selling is on, the only things you can return to the shops are unknown flavour items for ID.

(4) Inscribing ammo with @t9, @t8 or @v9, @v8 no longer seems to move the ammo to that slot or allow shooting using the assigned number. Related, see (B) below.

I'm not sure if they ever did, but @f9, @f8 etc do work

(5) Sounds. When I switch from normal non-enchanted ammo to specialty brand ammo all the sound effects disappear, and it feels like all my shots are missing.

That's weird. I'll investigate.

(6) Quiver can't hold more than 10 types of items: (0)-(9), so when I get too many small stacks of arrows, then the quiver starts pushing the excess into inventory.

This is by design - the quiver has always been this way.

(A) Can we assign hot-keys Cmd-1, Cmd-2, ... for OS X windowing to the Windows Term-1, Term-2, ... ?? This is pretty standard OS X windowing practice, and would help with window switching enormously.

Switching to a subwindow doesn't really do anything (all input only affects the main window) - do you mean for opening the subwindows? I can look into that.

(B) Ammo re-ordering: Can we order slay ammo beneath brand ammo? This may not echo other people's prefs, but I try and save the slays for only the creatures that they are useful for, and if I brands are ordered above them, then there's less chance I waste the slay arrows accidentally since Brands are applicable to a lot more creatures. But I can also see reasoning to just order by straight power with slays/brands intermixed. You don't want to waste a +15,+15 brand when you have a +6/+9 slay orc still unused.

I think I want to keep the straight power ordering. This sort of personal preference is what inscriptions are for.

[Nick]

Has anybody else had this problem? I haven't ever had it before the latest version or two. Sometimes when I cast a spell, Angband moves my character. Sometimes it is just a couple of squares, sometimes it is quite some distance. It *seems* as if it is trying to move it as far as it can in direction X. Isn't there some sort of command for that? Is there some bug activating this command when spells are cast?

Odd. I haven't been able to reproduce it, but I haven't tried for long.

Is it possible you're giving a complete casting command and then moving? For example, I can cast magic missile to the left once, then hit 'n', left arrow and I will cast the repeated spell then step to the left.

[Egavactip]

Odd. I haven't been able to reproduce it, but I haven't tried for long.

Is it possible you're giving a complete casting command and then moving? For example, I can cast magic missile to the left once, then hit 'n', left arrow and I will cast the repeated spell then step to the left.

I can't see how. First, sometimes it moves me a *lot*. Also, that's something that, if I were doing it, I would have been doing for years, not just recently.

[Nivra]

Thanks for the replies, Nick.

On purpose - when no selling is on, the only things you can return to the shops are unknown flavour items for ID.

But when no selling is on, I can still sell back Staves of Mapping and have them get recharged. Why some items are sale-able/re-chargeable and others aren't?

I'm not sure if they ever did, but @f9, @f8 etc do work

Oops. I forgot that "f" is the standard shoot command. I never use standard.

Switching to a subwindow doesn't really do anything (all input only affects the main window) - do you mean for opening the subwindows? I can look into that.

I play on a 12" laptop screen, so real estate is a big thing for me. Rather than trying to fit all my sub-windows on one screen, it'd be much easier if I could have a couple of them like the creature description and character description sub accessible via Cmd-6 or Cmd-7. Then, they would layer over another sub-window I have. For instance if I'm busy examining a bunch of monsters, it'd be nice to be able to Cmd-6 over to the monster description sub, which replaces the mssage log sub, and then I can tab through the various creatures reading the monster descriptions. Then Cmd-5 back to messages when I start moving again. Similar use cases exist for inventory/equipment management, planning, etc. I know I could do it via point and click, but when I play roguelike, I almost never use the mouse, so it's fairly counter-intuitive and inconvenient.

Thx for all your time, effort, hard work, and caring. You rock!

[Derakon]

But when no selling is on, I can still sell back Staves of Mapping and have them get recharged. Why some items are sale-able/re-chargeable and others aren't?

I believe it's simply that you can only sell for recharging items that the store would naturally stock. Wands of lightning bolts are not naturally stocked, so you can't sell them back to the shopkeeper.

[Nivra]

Speaking of the re-draw bug, the Map sub-window on OS X is buggy.

To clarify: I'm talking about the subwindow that appears when I go into Options->Subwindow Setup
and turn on "Display Map View" as it's own window.

There are two issues:

(1) It slows down re-drawing of the main window a lot. When I have it in the background, not shown as a full window, and am doing stuff in the main Angband (Cmd-0) window, re-draw on the main window slows down immensely. It takes nearly 5 seconds with redraw delay=0ms or 10ms to cross the screen. This slow down persists even if I minimize the subwindow or outright close(X) the subwindow.

(2) It gets buggy and fails to re-draw any part of the map that's off-limits. So, if I have the map large enough to show the whole dungeon, it exhibits the following behavior: if I'm centered in the middle of the dungeon, it looks good, and I can see the whole dungeon. Then, when I run to the right edge of the dungeon, it wants to re-center the drawing on my current @ position, forcing the left part of the dungeon off the map, and then on the right side of the subwindow, where there should be only blank space, the older full dungeon view is still visible, so you see a duplicate of the right side of the dungeon: One, part of the current re-draw with @ centered, and two, part of the previous re-draw showing the right edge of the dungeon. I can provide a screenshot if you can't reproduce this or don't understand.

[Update: (1) seems to happen even if I set it to overhead map instead of normal map]

[Timo Pietilä]

It just happened to me twice more. I think it is occurring when I cast a spell in a particular direction, as opposed to clicking on a target. It then auto-moves me in that direction until I hit a wall or (I think) see a monster, etc.

"clicking on target" suggests that you use mouse. I turn mouse off ASAP in all my games because that's disaster waiting to happen.

[Rowan]

I like using the Map in the "Options" menu rather than just hitting M because the options-menu map is much more accurate and detailed while M just shows the general shape of the level.

Is it considered a bug that the options-menu map fails on cave levels?

[Egavactip]

"clicking on target" suggests that you use mouse. I turn mouse off ASAP in all my games because that's disaster waiting to happen.

I use the mouse to target, that's about it.

[Nick]

I use the mouse to target, that's about it.

OK, so cast spell, left-click to target, right-click to fire? And this is in Windows?

[Egavactip]

OK, so cast spell, left-click to target, right-click to fire? And this is in Windows?

yes, windows. lc to target. keyboard to fire

[Pete Mack]

Warnings in V compile: out of bounds array write:
player-path.c:75:17: warning: iteration 100u invokes undefined behavior [-Waggressive-loop-optimizations]
terrain[0][i] = -1;
^
Nominal array overflow. You can fix it by using memset 0xff to get rid of nominal overflow and insane "optimization".

	// initialize to -1;
	memset(terrain, 0xFF, sizeof(terrain));

FONT="Courier New"]ui-birth.c:1222:8: warning: 'prev' may be used uninitialized in this function [-Wmaybe-uninitialized]
if (prev < BIRTH_FINAL_CONFIRM)


bogus warning. Fix with

       enum birth_stage prev[COLOR="Red"] = {0}[/COLOR];

[Pete Mack]

One more bug:
High Elf,
height 8' 0"
weight 17 stone 41 lbs
Huh???

[Ingwe Ingweron]

One more bug:
High Elf,
height 8' 0"
weight 17 stone 41 lbs
Huh???

Not a bug. Hasn't Angband always expressed @ weight in terms of Stone weight? English stone = 14 lbs. So this High Elf is eight feet tall and weighs 279 lbs.

[Therem Harth]

Methinks Pete is talking about the remainder. If 1 stone is 14 pounds, then a remainder of 41 pounds indicates math being done wrong somewhere.