4.0.4 bugs

[mixer]

If you want stupid/funny messages/result, step on some money just as a thief steals all your gold (in my case 1 gold piece):
You find 24 gold pieces worth of copper (it was level 1).
Thief steals all your gold.

You still have the 24 gold pieces!

[kandrc]

If you want stupid/funny messages/result, step on some money just as a thief steals all your gold (in my case 1 gold piece):
You find 24 gold pieces worth of copper (it was level 1).
Thief steals all your gold.

You still have the 24 gold pieces!

The current, real world prices of copper and gold differ by 4 orders of magnitude. And let's ignore the fact that gold is more than twice as dense as copper and pretend, instead, that they are equally dense. That 24 gold pieces worth of copper takes up as much space (and roughly weighs as much as) 240000 pieces of gold.

@ is truly god-like, even at level 1.

[Egavactip]

The current, real world prices of copper and gold differ by 4 orders of magnitude. And let's ignore the fact that gold is more than twice as dense as copper and pretend, instead, that they are equally dense. That 24 gold pieces worth of copper takes up as much space (and roughly weighs as much as) 240000 pieces of gold.

@ is truly god-like, even at level 1.

He has it all in bitcoins.

[Egavactip]

See screenshot for bug.

[PowerWyrm]

In activation.txt:

name:CURE_FULL
aim:0
power:12
effect:HEAL_HP
dice:300+m35
effect:CURE:BLIND
effect:CURE:CUT
effect:CURE:POISONED
effect:CURE:STUN
effect:CURE:AMNESIA
effect:CURE:CONFUSED
desc:heals 35% of max HP (minimum 300HP), cut damage, and cures stunning, poisoning, blindness, and confusion

Just replace "35%" by "35%%" and it's fixed.

[Werbaer]

Are monster able to kill uniques? Looks like.

Priest against Witch King, which summoned quite some things (mostly harmless), and was nearly dead:

The Witch-King of Angmar ist hit hard.
The GreatWyrm of Many Colours is hit hard.
[...]
The Witch-King of Angmar tries to cast a spell, but fails.
The Great Wyrm of Many Colours breathes fire.
The Whip burns up!
[...]
The Witch-King of Angmar is destroyed.

Well, he was still there, and probing revealed that he was at 0 HP. But the message was quite disturbing.

(note: i'm playing 4.0.3, but i didn't read about this being fixed)

[Ingwe Ingweron]

Are monster able to kill uniques? Looks like.

I believe so, just like they can kill regular monsters. Different than if trampled (e.g., by Huan), in which case they can be regenerated. But, yeah, a fire-breath could have taken down a much weakened Angmar. The rub is that if @ didn't deliver the coup-de-grace, then @ doens't win the experience gain from the monster's death. At least, I think that's how it works. But I'm not on the dev team and don't know code, so I could be completely wrong about this.

[Derakon]

I believe so, just like they can kill regular monsters. Different than if trampled (e.g., by Huan), in which case they can be regenerated. But, yeah, a fire-breath could have taken down a much weakened Angmar. The rub is that if @ didn't deliver the coup-de-grace, then @ doens't win the experience gain from the monster's death. At least, I think that's how it works. But I'm not on the dev team and don't know code, so I could be completely wrong about this.

My experience is that monsters can take a unique down to 0HP, but they can't actually kill it. Uniques can be deleted by earthquakes, and possibly by trampling, but that doesn't count as killing them, so they can be regenerated later.

[yyt16384]

Are monster able to kill uniques? Looks like.

Priest against Witch King, which summoned quite some things (mostly harmless), and was nearly dead:

The Witch-King of Angmar ist hit hard.
The GreatWyrm of Many Colours is hit hard.
[...]
The Witch-King of Angmar tries to cast a spell, but fails.
The Great Wyrm of Many Colours breathes fire.
The Whip burns up!
[...]
The Witch-King of Angmar is destroyed.

Well, he was still there, and probing revealed that he was at 0 HP. But the message was quite disturbing.

(note: i'm playing 4.0.3, but i didn't read about this being fixed)

I think I have found this. In project_m():

	/* Extract method of death, if the monster will be killed. */
	if (dam > mon->hp)
		context.hurt_msg = context.die_msg;

	/* Apply damage to the monster, based on who did the damage. */
	if (who > 0)
		mon_died = project_m_monster_attack(&context, m_name, m_idx);
	else
		mon_died = project_m_player_attack(&context, m_name);

However, project_m_monster_attack() may change the damage to make sure uniques are not killed by monsters, so we shouldn't modify hurt_msg there.

[Nick]

I think I have found this. In project_m():

	/* Extract method of death, if the monster will be killed. */
	if (dam > mon->hp)
		context.hurt_msg = context.die_msg;

	/* Apply damage to the monster, based on who did the damage. */
	if (who > 0)
		mon_died = project_m_monster_attack(&context, m_name, m_idx);
	else
		mon_died = project_m_player_attack(&context, m_name);

However, project_m_monster_attack() may change the damage to make sure uniques are not killed by monsters, so we shouldn't modify hurt_msg there.

Yes, looks like this is it - thanks for saving me the effort

I am currently working my way through this thread fixing stuff, thanks everyone for reporting and clarifying.

[Nivra]

Handful of Bugs/Feature Requests

Bugs:
(1) Ring of the Mouse always seems to have zero to-hit penalty and only a to-dam penalty. I seem to remember they used to have a to-hit penalty, too.

(2) The graphics re-drawing bug pointed out a couple versions ago still exists: When @ auto-run takes me across a new screen to the left, the screen re-draw happens from the right side, and during the crossover, it looks like @ crossed into a totally different region. There was a bug post by someone else on this a couple versions ago. I'll see if I can find it, with screenshot.

(3) Can't sell Wand of Light or Wand of Lightning Bolts back to magic shop for recharging. Is this by design or on purpose?

(4) Inscribing ammo with @t9, @t8 or @v9, @v8 no longer seems to move the ammo to that slot or allow shooting using the assigned number. Related, see (B) below.

(5) Sounds. When I switch from normal non-enchanted ammo to specialty brand ammo all the sound effects disappear, and it feels like all my shots are missing.

(6) Quiver can't hold more than 10 types of items: (0)-(9), so when I get too many small stacks of arrows, then the quiver starts pushing the excess into inventory.


Feature Requests:

(A) Can we assign hot-keys Cmd-1, Cmd-2, ... for OS X windowing to the Windows Term-1, Term-2, ... ?? This is pretty standard OS X windowing practice, and would help with window switching enormously.

(B) Ammo re-ordering: Can we order slay ammo beneath brand ammo? This may not echo other people's prefs, but I try and save the slays for only the creatures that they are useful for, and if I brands are ordered above them, then there's less chance I waste the slay arrows accidentally since Brands are applicable to a lot more creatures. But I can also see reasoning to just order by straight power with slays/brands intermixed. You don't want to waste a +15,+15 brand when you have a +6/+9 slay orc still unused.

[Egavactip]

Has anybody else had this problem? I haven't ever had it before the latest version or two. Sometimes when I cast a spell, Angband moves my character. Sometimes it is just a couple of squares, sometimes it is quite some distance. It *seems* as if it is trying to move it as far as it can in direction X. Isn't there some sort of command for that? Is there some bug activating this command when spells are cast?

[Egavactip]

It just happened to me twice more. I think it is occurring when I cast a spell in a particular direction, as opposed to clicking on a target. It then auto-moves me in that direction until I hit a wall or (I think) see a monster, etc.

[Carnivean]

Are you using macros or the rogue keyset?

[Egavactip]

Are you using macros or the rogue keyset?

No to both.