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  • Ingwe Ingweron
    Veteran
    • Jan 2009
    • 2129

    Angband 4.0 dev b33831c

    Unknown crash when recalling from Town. Not easily replicable so no savefile attached.
    “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
    ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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    • Nomad
      Knight
      • Sep 2010
      • 958

      Originally posted by Nick
      Update b33831c
      • Includes Nomad's tile updates and
      • Changes the starting screen
      I'm afraid the new starting screen doesn't move/redraw if you resize the window, so you end up with only one corner of it visible if you reduce the main window to minimum size. (If you exit then restart, though, it does then appear correctly in the smaller window.) Also, this is probably just me and my terrible eyes, but I must admit I find the bright red text on black a bit painful to try and read.

      And thanks for installing the tiles! I quite like the new-look town: my tileset's still using the old brown permarock colour for walls, so between that and the lava and brown rubble the town now looks quite 'warm' and cave-like compared to the dungeon corridors. Much more atmospheric than 3.5 town.

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      • Ingwe Ingweron
        Veteran
        • Jan 2009
        • 2129

        Originally posted by Nomad
        ....Also, this is probably just me and my terrible eyes, but I must admit I find the bright red text on black a bit painful to try and read.
        +1 on the reading difficulty.
        “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
        ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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        • Ingwe Ingweron
          Veteran
          • Jan 2009
          • 2129

          And mysteriously, [,] stand still is working properly again. Nick, you must have been right, a redraw problem.
          “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
          ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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          • debo
            Veteran
            • Oct 2011
            • 2402

            Originally posted by Ingwe Ingweron
            +1 on the reading difficulty.
            It's a roguelike. It's supposed to be really hard.
            Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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            • MattB
              Veteran
              • Mar 2013
              • 1214

              Originally posted by debo
              It's a roguelike. It's supposed to be really hard.
              Literal lol.

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              • Nomad
                Knight
                • Sep 2010
                • 958

                Just noticed that Feature Knowledge on the knowledge menu doesn't seem to list traps any more. In 3.5 they have their own subsection and are all known from the beginning, but in 4.0 they're not listed anywhere even after you've encountered a few.

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                • Nick
                  Vanilla maintainer
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9637

                  Originally posted by Nomad
                  Just noticed that Feature Knowledge on the knowledge menu doesn't seem to list traps any more. In 3.5 they have their own subsection and are all known from the beginning, but in 4.0 they're not listed anywhere even after you've encountered a few.
                  Yeah, that's on my to do list (#1935) - because they're not terrain features any more they need different treatment, and I didn't realise until a few days ago (while reading the glyph of warding thread) that we'd lost information.

                  And I'll change the ominous red to boring light grey
                  One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                  In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                  • MattB
                    Veteran
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 1214

                    Originally posted by Nick
                    And I'll change the ominous red to boring light grey
                    d o o m

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                    • Nick
                      Vanilla maintainer
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9637

                      Originally posted by Ingwe Ingweron
                      Angband 4.0 dev b33831c

                      Unknown crash when recalling from Town. Not easily replicable so no savefile attached.
                      Good to report, though, because it's presumably a crash on level generation, which suggests it may be my recent fix to traps appearing on stairs.
                      One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                      In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                      • MattB
                        Veteran
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 1214

                        Just had a crash and, while I don't really know why, I was hammering the 'h' button to get rid of a jelly that was in my way...

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                        • Nick
                          Vanilla maintainer
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9637

                          Originally posted by MattB
                          Just had a crash and, while I don't really know why, I was hammering the 'h' button to get rid of a jelly that was in my way...
                          Did you run out of arrows? Were any falling at your feet? Any other clues?
                          One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                          In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                          • MattB
                            Veteran
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 1214

                            Here's a zip.

                            It happened again, in a completely different sector of the dungeon, so I reloaded, resized and moved around all my windows again, and this time headed for the original jelly. I saved, which is this savefile, and had at 'im again. It crashed again. Then I reloaded (the savefile, not the bow), shot him carefully and no crash, but YMMD.
                            Attached Files

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                            • Ingwe Ingweron
                              Veteran
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 2129

                              Angband 4.0 dev b33831c

                              A possible pathing problem has raised its ugly head. @ is in a vault and has successfully killed the cat lord. Can anyone explain why the tiger will not move up to attack? Aris.zip
                              “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
                              ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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                              • Nick
                                Vanilla maintainer
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 9637

                                Update fcb2a07 fixes:
                                • Readability of the splashscreen quote
                                • MattB's jelly crash - thanks for the savefile, the pack combining logic was just wrong, and I'm surprised there weren't more crashes from this
                                • Taking more care with ensuring trapless stairs, hopefully fixing Ingwe's latest crash
                                • Repeat wielding of the same item


                                Some other things:
                                Originally posted by Ingwe Ingweron
                                Angband 4.0 dev 77dc1ae

                                Possibly related to Bug #1922. Speed display not updating properly.

                                On the attached savefile. Swap between the boots of speed and the boots of stealth, observing the speed display. On OSX this is not updating correctly, even after a move. The problem resolves with a redraw, until you swap the boots again. [ATTACH]1262[/ATTACH]
                                The speed display updates flawlessly for me, on both Linux and OSX. This whole business is quite odd - there are multiple independent reports of this, but it doesn't seem to be reliably reproducible.

                                Originally posted by Ingwe Ingweron
                                Angband 4.0 dev b33831c

                                A possible pathing problem has raised its ugly head. @ is in a vault and has successfully killed the cat lord. Can anyone explain why the tiger will not move up to attack? [ATTACH]1265[/ATTACH]
                                No problem - tiger is frightened If you walk down and into the corner, it will go past and leg it up to the top of the vault.
                                One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                                In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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