V 3.5 now in feature freeze

[takkaria]

Is it intentional that un-ID'd artifacts can have the wrong dice listed?
See Ringil below...
(For all I know this could always have been the case and I've been too dozy to notice).

Un-ID'd items look like their basic type. This changed sometime after 3.1 IIRC.

[MattB]

Un-ID'd items look like their basic type. This changed sometime after 3.1 IIRC.

That's alright then
I'm not very observant.

[MattB]

I realise a sample size of one can't be statistically significant, so I'm asking everyone else playing 3.5:

Is it just me, or is it raining artifacts?

I'm running a HT warrior and I'm finding it ridiculously easy (not that I'm complaining, but I'm really not very good).

If it's just me I'll sit back and enjoy the RNG's unusual generosity (and then die to the Terrasque OOD at dlvl 55).

[Derakon]

It's certainly more generous than 3.4 was. What exactly the right distribution is, is difficult to say. Those of us who got used to 3.4's paucity will think that 3.5 is overgenerous, but I rather suspect it's still less generous than 3.1.2 was.

[Magnate]

It's certainly more generous than 3.4 was. What exactly the right distribution is, is difficult to say. Those of us who got used to 3.4's paucity will think that 3.5 is overgenerous, but I rather suspect it's still less generous than 3.1.2 was.

Sounds like it's time for some stats. Does the stats module still work?

Btw, sad to see there isn't a new forum title at 5k posts!

[takkaria]

Sounds like it's time for some stats. Does the stats module still work?

Btw, sad to see there isn't a new forum title at 5k posts!

As far as I'm aware. All of our stats magicians are inactive at the moment though!

[Nomad]

Is it just me, or is it raining artifacts?

Can't speak for the later game, but to add some more anecdata, I've had two randart warriors reach around 2000' feet and they both found one artefact each. So either the RNG likes you, it doesn't like me, or I keep dying just before the rain of artefacts starts.

[MattB]

Sounds like it's time for some stats. Does the stats module still work?

Yay! Stat time!

[MattB]

Can't speak for the later game, but to add some more anecdata, I've had two randart warriors reach around 2000' feet and they both found one artefact each. So either the RNG likes you, it doesn't like me, or I keep dying just before the rain of artefacts starts.

I'm on standarts, so maybe that's it?

Oh, and I sacrificed a maddened weasel before I started.

[Magnate]

As far as I'm aware. All of our stats magicians are inactive at the moment though!

Hint taken - stats running now! I've done half a million runs so will take a couple of days (I'm away until Sunday anyway).

EDIT: I spoke too soon! Stats module gives an error whatever I do:

src/angband: Couldn't read from RWops: Is a directory

... not sure what that is, I couldn't fix it from a holiday cottage in Devon ;-)

Btw, also two errors in current master (32-bit Linux) a412a06096

main-stats.c: In function ‘term_data_link’:
main-stats.c:1778:15: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type [enabled by default]

and

Running: tests/birth/new-game-0... Failed

HTH.

[AnonymousHero]

EDIT: I spoke too soon! Stats module gives an error whatever I do:

src/angband: Couldn't read from RWops: Is a directory

Hang on... I've seen this, but for the life of me I can't remember what (if any) effect it actually has on anything. I seem to recall it just being a list of warnings and the game working normally after spitting these out.

"Is a directory" is almost certainly a message from strerror (or equivalent), but IIRC "RWops" doesn't occur in the Angband source at all... which means that something else is generating that message.

[Magnate]

Hang on... I've seen this, but for the life of me I can't remember what (if any) effect it actually has on anything. I seem to recall it just being a list of warnings and the game working normally after spitting these out.

"Is a directory" is almost certainly a message from strerror (or equivalent), but IIRC "RWops" doesn't occur in the Angband source at all... which means that something else is generating that message.

Google tells me that "couldn't read from RWops" is an SDL error message. So something has gone slightly screwy in the stats module (which should go nowhere near SDL). I will do some more investigating.

[takkaria]

Google tells me that "couldn't read from RWops" is an SDL error message. So something has gone slightly screwy in the stats module (which should go nowhere near SDL). I will do some more investigating.

Maybe you've compiled with SDL audio turned on?

[Magnate]

Maybe you've compiled with SDL audio turned on?

I probably have, but why would this be a problem if the SDL module is never invoked and no calls are made to the SDL library? (Sorry if this is a really ignorant question) I've also compiled support for x11 and curses but there aren't any complaints from these libraries ...

EDIT: disabling sdl-mixer worked: 500k runs underway ...

[MattB]

500k runs underway ...

While your half a million runs are...well...running, here is the result of my one run (so far).

To give you an idea of speed, I'm not a diver and I hit clvl50 at dlvl 75.
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dlvl 0-8 nothing

9-20 paurhach, nimthanc,

21-40 elvagil, holhenneth, galadriel, nimloth, gondricam, maedhros, theoden,
narthanc

41-60 thorongil, turmil, haradekket, thorin, hadrin, himring, orome,
lotharang, ringil, berathiel, anarion, radagast, wrath, pauraegen,
hammerhand, thengel, thrain, thalkettoth, carlammas, colannon

60-70 celebrimbor, evenstar, barahir, aranrath (is this new, or have I just never seen it before?),
holcolleth, til-i-arc, firestar, Eriril, Taratol, Arvedui, Isildur, Careth Asdriag, Thranduil, Eorlingas, dal-i-thalion

70-80 erebor, gil-galad, ingwe, celeborn, belegennon, feanor (1st time ever!),
sting, aeglin, elendil, rohirrim

So that's 55 artifacts in total, in only 80 levels.
Is this normal?
If not, is it an issue or just very lucky?

I guess Magnate's results will give the answer...