Angband 4.2.3

[Bogatyr]

Also, while rogues get unlimited recharge, it is not ever good as recharge scrolls. If you really care about a staff of banishment, use scrolls to recharge it if you can. I don't remember when the mage spell achieves equality, but it's probably a pretty high CL.

Also didn't know that, thanks! A reason to keep the scrolls around

[PowerDiver]

Also, while rogues get unlimited recharge, it is not ever good as recharge scrolls. If you really care about a staff of banishment, use scrolls to recharge it if you can. I don't remember when the mage spell achieves equality, but it's probably a pretty high CL.

[PowerDiver]

That's interesting about # charges < # wands, I didn't know that.

The point is the silly interpretation that the charges continually migrate from items with higher charges to items with fewer charges. The game interprets n wands with n-1 charges to be n-1 wands of 1 charge each plus 1 wand with 0 charges, and assumes you are recharging the 0 charge wand.

[Bogatyr]

You have the best chance of avoiding a backfire if the number of charges is strictly less than the number of wands. It depends on your access to recharge and the likelihood you pick up more items how best to proceed.

(a) Recharge whenever charges < stack size
(b) Wait until all are 0, and then drop and recharge separately on the ground.

Usually I prefer (b), but e.g. for teleport other I usually do (a).

When I have a big stack, e.g. stone to mud, I may recharge stuff a la (b) even with 1 or 2 charges, planning on keeping only a subset anyway. Sometimes you don't care if 1 or 2 blow up.

This is a real annoyance, and one of the things I repeatedly miss from my ancient mods is doing rod/wand/staff stacking correctly.

I'm referring to mages/rogues, with infinite recharge available. That's interesting about # charges < # wands, I didn't know that. I seem to have settled on (a) keep recharging while # charges < (3 * # wands), but for really important/rare ones like annihiliation or speed I wait for zero. My (a) seems to work fine for the low level wands like slow and stone to mud. I'm also more careful with stun and hold since they're dungeon only and a bit more rare.

[PowerDiver]

What is the most effective way to recharge stacks of wands/staves?
1) to maximize # of charges while minimizing chances of backfire
2) to absolutely minimize chance of backfire

You have the best chance of avoiding a backfire if the number of charges is strictly less than the number of wands. It depends on your access to recharge and the likelihood you pick up more items how best to proceed.

(a) Recharge whenever charges < stack size
(b) Wait until all are 0, and then drop and recharge separately on the ground.

Usually I prefer (b), but e.g. for teleport other I usually do (a).

When I have a big stack, e.g. stone to mud, I may recharge stuff a la (b) even with 1 or 2 charges, planning on keeping only a subset anyway. Sometimes you don't care if 1 or 2 blow up.

This is a real annoyance, and one of the things I repeatedly miss from my ancient mods is doing rod/wand/staff stacking correctly.

[Bogatyr]

What is the most effective way to recharge stacks of wands/staves?
1) to maximize # of charges while minimizing chances of backfire
2) to absolutely minimize chance of backfire

Does it make any sense at all to drop them one by one at zero charges each and to charge them one at a time and then pick them all up? In my subjective experience, this satisfies both #1 and #2. It also seems that if there are less than 3 charges per wand in the stack, that one cast of recharge seems not to backfire more than the long drop-one-at-a-time technique.

Does power level of the spell enter in to the backfire rate? I'm like to know both for a mage and for a rogue (the latter seems to have a max power level of 6? At least around clev 30...?)

[smbhax]

FYI this was reported here: https://github.com/draconisPW/PWMAngband/issues/534

Apparently there is a bug with SDL2 client which also happens in V.

That was this change

https://github.com/angband/angband/commit/c9064477d26e2aba3a94f9058e8ab4b1697e1461

related to resolving a dungeon background refresh problem when playing with a color-editor-edited background color:

https://github.com/angband/angband/issues/5132

[PowerWyrm]

FYI this was reported here: https://github.com/draconisPW/PWMAngband/issues/534

Apparently there is a bug with SDL2 client which also happens in V.

[Nick]

Just curious, no updates since January 19th?

I'm assuming you're taking a much needed break.

There are actually a bunch of updates (mainly from backwardsEric) that I need to pull in. I'm planning to do that pretty soon, and pretty soon after that release 4.2.4.

I'm not exactly taking a break; more like sidetracked.

[mrfy]

Yep, it's here.

Just curious, no updates since January 19th?

I'm assuming you're taking a much needed break.

[Estie]

Thanks Nick!

[Nick]

Is the nightly available anywhere ? The rephial page says "under construction" :

https://rephial.org/nightlies

Yep, it's here.

[Estie]

Is the nightly available anywhere ? The rephial page says "under construction" :

https://rephial.org/nightlies

[Selkie]

And render their Cure Poison spell obsolete? = D EDIT Oh right that was replaced by that funny-sounding Herbal Curing and now all the FAQs are out of date.

Well the main thing herbal curing does is cure poison (it also cures black breath, but that's so niche and used to appear in the second spell book IIRC). I just feel if you're becoming resistant to poison it should also cure it. Not a big deal, but I did wonder if it was an oversight.

[smbhax]

If a ranger is poisoned and casts the resist poison spell he remains poisoned - shouldn't it also cure the poison?

And render their Cure Poison spell obsolete? = D EDIT Oh right that was replaced by that funny-sounding Herbal Curing and now all the FAQs are out of date.