[Announce] FrogComposband 7.0.cloudberry released

[CyclopsSlayer]

Sorry, it wasn't meant to be an accusation.
I was just curious about the inner workings of complex calculations. I am only remotely familiar with coding, classes in BASIC and Pascal 40 years ago, so looking into the source is not really an option. I was just curious about the process order and whether or not it rendered the displayed numbers as meaningful.

[TauzentBlitz]

Skill Masters with 5 points in Burglary don't get friendly piranhas from traps either.

Edit: Any monster you ride on will log every step you take as a non-spell-cast turn, more or less permanently ruining their spell % chance in recall. This even takes precedence over the probing spell. (After riding around a Hell Knight on a ring character for a while it has a listed 1.88% chance, 854 out of 45245 moves.)

Edit Edit: Does weapon proficiency affect skillmaster throwing to_hit?

MORE EDIT: Anyone know what a good set of schools for a Blood Mage is? I'm considering Death as a primary for those vampirism spells (and while I haven't tested the spells, the vampirism wand still heals a blood mage fully) and then maybe Armageddon to begin with and then switch to sorcery once I have a good set of damage spells from the Death Realm.

[CyclopsSlayer]

Weaponsmithing - there is no option to split a stack when Enhancing or Absorbing. You can drop a partial stack, enhance and pickup the remainder. Just not Enhance one out of a stack.

Melee Gloves for hybrids - With spiked, studded, wizard and thief gloves/gauntlets, it seems that wearable gloves like Free Action have become exceedingly rare. So, either take combat penalties, mana and fail penalties, or going without until your stats raise to overcome the penalties. Although something like -7,-8 (hit/dmg) is fairly hard to overcome in a characters first 30-40 levels.
EDIT: Just found Spiked Gauntlets of the Wizard (-9, -1) [4, -14] (+3) {InMd}

[Sideways]

Thief gloves are good for all classes. Mage types can wear them without penalties because of the +DEX, and for more melee-oriented characters an early pair of thief gloves is also often a strong option (free stealth and sust_dex with no loss of damage, or even improved damage, thanks to the +DEX and +to-hit) unless they've found gloves of slaying first. Apart from characters with 0x FA from other sources, I'm not sure who'd prefer gloves of free action to gloves of the thief.

Spiked gauntlets and studded gloves are object base types, not egos; they can generate with all the same egos (including Free Action) as other glove types.

[CyclopsSlayer]

Thief gloves are good for all classes. Mage types can wear them without penalties because of the +DEX, and for more melee-oriented characters an early pair of thief gloves is also often a strong option (free stealth and sust_dex with no loss of damage, or even improved damage, thanks to the +DEX and +to-hit) unless they've found gloves of slaying first. Apart from characters with 0x FA from other sources, I'm not sure who'd prefer gloves of free action to gloves of the thief.

Spiked gauntlets and studded gloves are object base types, not egos; they can generate with all the same egos (including Free Action) as other glove types.

I have never seen Thief gloves without a huge loss of Damage and to-hit, something +Dex/Stl doesn't begin to fix. Seriously I think only a single pair had a shop value above 1 coin, or a score worth noticing.
Once I get below dLevel 30 or so I start seeing them with decent numbers. But shallow? I wouldn't wear them on a dare, much rather do totally without.

[Pete Mack]

That doesnt make logical sense. Why would magical gloves intended to improve theft reduce fighting ability? That said, the only such gloves should be leather or silk. What thief would ever wear steel gauntlets on a caper?

[Sideways]

That doesnt make logical sense. Why would magical gloves intended to improve theft reduce fighting ability?

They don't. They decrease to-dam, but improve to-hit and +DEX; with the average character, at the point when they find their first thief gloves, the overall effect on melee damage tends to be close to zero, and is often positive.

Not sure why that's not the case for CyclopsSlayer's characters; maybe he's playing unusual combinations the normal math doesn't apply to, or has been really unlucky with his thief gloves; or maybe he's just wrong.

[wobbly]

That sounds like bad luck, it's not unusual for me to see a reasonable set at shop 2. Incidently I'm not a fan of spiked wizard gloves and the like which seem to disrupt the tradeoff between damage & Md bonus. Though perhaps that's ok in terms of competing with artifact gloves. Still, great gloves are rare and being able to Md the glove slot without loss on a big bruiser, that's not something to be sneezed at.

[wobbly]

Anyone playing without a numpad? What do you use for movement instead?

[CyclopsSlayer]

Anyone playing without a numpad? What do you use for movement instead?

I live, and far too often die by my numpad.

Back some years, under frogknows, I was on a laptop with no numpad and remapped the keyboard to use TYU GHJ BNM as move keys, but that was incredibly akward as I messed with a lot of standard commands

[Derakon]

Anyone playing without a numpad? What do you use for movement instead?

Does FrogCompos still have the roguelike keyset? It should let you move using non-numeric keys.

[wobbly]

Does FrogCompos still have the roguelike keyset? It should let you move using non-numeric keys.

It does though it plays a bit funny in that store menus and inscriptions are still the angband set. So to (z)ap z you inscribe @az and to (a)ctivate a you inscribe @za

Playing around in Sil with vi-keys I think I can just use the angband set and keymap hjkl, yu & bn. I think there I just need something else for (u)se, (U)se and (k)estroy.

& something for look too I guess

[schatz]

Eric the Usurper appearing twice

Not sure if this is intended, but I killed him twice - once in Angband dungeon and the other in the Telmora quest.

Each time a corpse was generated since he was 'Wanted'. Of course the bounty office did not accept the second corpse.

[Sideways]

Not sure if this is intended, but I killed him twice - once in Angband dungeon and the other in the Telmora quest.

Each time a corpse was generated since he was 'Wanted'. Of course the bounty office did not accept the second corpse.

Yeah, it's known that can happen. I'm not entirely happy with it, but there's no really perfect solution; I could restrict Eric to his quest only, but I don't like that, especially given that he should be a summonable Amberite and that the Eric quest isn't even available in lite-town; or I could make the quest count as insta-solved if Eric was killed before the quest (which is what Kangband did, might even be what some Pos-likes have done), but that would make the quest way too easy; or I could make the quest unavailable if Eric was killed before, but then people would avoid killing Eric outside the quest if they wanted to do the quest.

[floatRand]

Been playing a bit, cool stuff, thank you for implementing 'coffee break' mode.
Although I'll have to point out a bug with Brain Smash code in particular.

  
while (!_plr_save(who, 0))
   do_dec_stat(A_INT);
while (!_plr_save(who, 0))
   do_dec_stat(A_WIS);

If player has awful, awful save (such as berserker), it can cause infinite/almost-infinite loop, freezing the game.