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  • Oraticus
    Apprentice
    • Sep 2014
    • 84

    #61
    Oh, and massive thanks to Nick and everyone who worked on this new version! Crazy that this game still has so much love after so many years!

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    • spara
      Adept
      • Nov 2014
      • 235

      #62
      Oh man. I'm still learning the ropes with the new hunger mechanic. Not the most intuitive thing, but I'm getting there . I guess 90 % is where you get overgorged and slowed down. I guess that percentage is the fill rate of the stomach and 100% is obviously painful. Mild green font does not really reflect this very well, maybe a more dramatic color would work better.

      A thought to consider. Would it be an idea to warn the player, when @ is going to eat something that will overgorge him? Ask for confirmation or something. That speed penalty is a killer.

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      • Ingwe Ingweron
        Veteran
        • Jan 2009
        • 2129

        #63
        Originally posted by spara
        A thought to consider. Would it be an idea to warn the player, when @ is going to eat something that will overgorge him? Ask for confirmation or something. That speed penalty is a killer.
        just remember that CCW, etc, have a "food" component, so that when you're quaffing those healing potions in the battle with Morgoth that you don't get gorged and slowed at the wrong moment in the final fight!
        “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
        ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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        • spara
          Adept
          • Nov 2014
          • 235

          #64
          Originally posted by Ingwe Ingweron
          just remember that CCW, etc, have a "food" component, so that when you're quaffing those healing potions in the battle with Morgoth that you don't get gorged and slowed at the wrong moment in the final fight!
          Indeed. It does not even need to be one of the big guys out there. I got into trouble with a measly kobold when I was suddenly slowed down after quaffing some healing! It's an interesting mechanic, but not very intuitive imho. Not exactly sure how it could be simplified or made clearer, but in it's current state, I find it a bit challenging.

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          • spara
            Adept
            • Nov 2014
            • 235

            #65
            In a fight with a blue ooze, my blackguard got a shield bash in. The following log says that the ooze is stunned and right after that it says the ooze is unaffected. The question is, unaffected from what? Can shield bash do something on top of stunning or something? The character is a lvl 6 beginning character that has absolutely nothing special on him.
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            • Nick
              Vanilla maintainer
              • Apr 2007
              • 9634

              #66
              Originally posted by spara
              In a fight with a blue ooze, my blackguard got a shield bash in. The following log says that the ooze is stunned and right after that it says the ooze is unaffected. The question is, unaffected from what? Can shield bash do something on top of stunning or something? The character is a lvl 6 beginning character that has absolutely nothing special on him.
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              Shield bashing can also confuse, but I think the 'unaffected' message is a bit confusing.
              One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
              In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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              • olivertheorem
                Rookie
                • Jan 2018
                • 10

                #67
                I haven't played a whole lot on 4.2.0, but I rather like the new hunger representation. I too was caught off guard the first time I got slowed by eating, but thankfully in my case I was in town at the time. I don't think this is such a bad thing, as Angband has a fair number of things that you don't know until it bites you once.

                I like the increased number of different foods too. It feels much more like foraging than just finding random stuff, even though it actually is finding random stuff. :P

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                • u235operator
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2019
                  • 1

                  #68
                  What does mana channel do?

                  I'm a 25 level mage, but I cant figure out what this spell does. Broader question, is their a listing of what all of the spells do?

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                  • Nick
                    Vanilla maintainer
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9634

                    #69
                    Originally posted by u235operator
                    I'm a 25 level mage, but I cant figure out what this spell does. Broader question, is their a listing of what all of the spells do?
                    Mana channel makes casting a spell only take half as long (technically half as much energy). If you hit '?' on the spell screen you'll get a description of the spell you're currently looking at.
                    One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                    In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                    • Ingwe Ingweron
                      Veteran
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 2129

                      #70
                      Why does a draught of the Ents provide no nourishment?
                      “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
                      ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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                      • Nick
                        Vanilla maintainer
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9634

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Ingwe Ingweron
                        Why does a draught of the Ents provide no nourishment?
                        I think that counts as a bug.
                        One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                        In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                        • Ingwe Ingweron
                          Veteran
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 2129

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Nick
                          I think that counts as a bug.
                          I also think it should slightly increase the @'s height.
                          “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
                          ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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                          • spara
                            Adept
                            • Nov 2014
                            • 235

                            #73
                            Managed to shield bash a yellow worm mass. As a result the worm mass is stunned and looks confused I wonder what that would look like?

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                            • spara
                              Adept
                              • Nov 2014
                              • 235

                              #74
                              A couple of questions about the shriekers.

                              1. They seem to haste themselves by shrieking. Is that the way it should be?

                              2. Judging by the messages they seem to haste to infinity, since the subjects look "even faster" over and over again. Is it so? Are they getting faster every time the shrieker shrieks?

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                              • Pete Mack
                                Prophet
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 6883

                                #75
                                @spara
                                Depends on the variant. In old variants, SHRIEK just added 10 to speed, so yes. In newer variants, it adds to a haste counter, just like the one for the player.

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