Current master post-4.1.3

[Nick]

Hmm, OK, I'll adjust 'Full' down a bit.

[Sphara]

http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=22568

Did you make food more rare too or was this starvation death just co-incidentally unlucky?

[Grotug]

I'm admittedly still playing a character I started from the April 29th build, and am wondering what is actually going on when a unique transforms into another unique that is 48 levels deeper. Maia of Orome just transformed into Huan, Wolfhound of Terror. Does the Maia now have the hitpoints of Huan? Is the Maia now actually Huan until he decides to change back or into something else? Is the Maia a cheap imitation of Huan? I ?phased away when I saw he had turned into Huan and then detected for evil but found none (The Maia of Orome did not become evil upon becoming Huan).

Thanks so much for some insight on this. I suppose I could poke at Huan and see what happens, but not sure I feel like dying to such an experiment.

[Ingwe Ingweron]

I ?phased away when I saw he had turned into Huan and then detected for evil but found none (The Maia of Orome did not become evil upon becoming Huan).

If I recall, Huan is not evil.

I've been wondering too, whether something changed into a unique has all the same attributes as that unique, (except the experience value, since it changes back immediately prior to death).

[Nick]

I'm admittedly still playing a character I started from the April 29th build, and am wondering what is actually going on when a unique transforms into another unique that is 48 levels deeper. Maia of Orome just transformed into Huan, Wolfhound of Terror. Does the Maia now have the hitpoints of Huan? Is the Maia now actually Huan until he decides to change back or into something else? Is the Maia a cheap imitation of Huan?

It will behave exactly like Huan, but its HP and speed will be unchanged. So it will be slower and have weaker breaths than the real Huan, but have the same melee and spells.

[Nick]

Did you make food more rare too or was this starvation death just co-incidentally unlucky?

No change to any object rarity. You must just have been playing badly

[wobbly]

I think you messed up rubble colours in here somewhere. They both look the same dull grey to my necromancer (in ascii).

[Nick]

I think you messed up rubble colours in here somewhere. They both look the same dull grey to my necromancer (in ascii).

Passable rubble is brown when it's lit - check it out in town, for example.

[wobbly]

Passable rubble is brown when it's lit - check it out in town, for example.

yeah it is. I'm going to say that different coloured lighting on rubble is just an added interface hassle for necromancers. It might play just fine for classes that use lights but it's flat out annoying on a class that doesn't.

[wobbly]

Also found a strange interaction. Something hit me with a darkness spell while I was blind & it mapped the room I was standing in (on necromancer of course).

Edit: Also you may want to improve the hunger mechanic before someone labels it vomitband.

[Chud]

Noticed a minor information leak -- after drinking !Enlightenment, I see an object in the object list simply identified as "= a Ring". Not a known ring, and not a "Plutonium Ring", and shown in grey along with the few undesirable objects.

So, I pretty much know it's an artifact (or a mimic I suppose) from the beginning.

[Pete Mack]

Hmm. In the old days, rings of power could be identified this way. Ruby, plain gold, etc, were all fixed object types. Same for necklaces and other special jewelry.

[Derakon]

Hmm. In the old days, rings of power could be identified this way. Ruby, plain gold, etc, were all fixed object types. Same for necklaces and other special jewelry.

I thought it was only the One Ring that had a special flavor. Part of what makes it so special is that you can identify it from a distance. Which makes sense from a lore standpoint, because it wants to be found! None of the other Rings of Power are described like that, that I can recall.

[Chud]

I thought it was only the One Ring that had a special flavor. Part of what makes it so special is that you can identify it from a distance. Which makes sense from a lore standpoint, because it wants to be found! None of the other Rings of Power are described like that, that I can recall.

In this case it was definitely not the One Ring, just a randart artifact ring. It doesn't seem nearly powerful enough to be based on the One Ring, though I guess you never know. Aggravate was its only minus, and mostly stat boosts and a couple resistances.

[Ingwe Ingweron]

I thought it was only the One Ring that had a special flavor. Part of what makes it so special is that you can identify it from a distance. Which makes sense from a lore standpoint, because it wants to be found! None of the other Rings of Power are described like that, that I can recall.

Several powerful items of jewelry an lights that have special flavors that can be observed from a distance and are identifiable to those "in the know", without actual identification by @. In addition to the Plain Gold Ring, there are the Ruby, Adamant, and Sapphire Rings, Jewel, Necklace, Amulet, Pendant, Elfstone, Phial, Star, and Arkenstone. However, I don't know how those translate in randarts.