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  • Ingwe Ingweron
    Veteran
    • Jan 2009
    • 2129
    #436
    Angband 4.0 dev ac26dbd

    Are enemy Mana Bolts now super-powered?

    Just ran into Baphomet and the monster description shows he can cast a mana bolt for 1566 damage! Checking out some of the other monsters:

    Sauron and Morgoth: Mana Storm (1600) same as Mana Bolt (1600)

    That's messed up.
    “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
    ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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      • Nick
        Vanilla maintainer
        • Apr 2007
        • 9637
        #437
        Originally posted by Ingwe Ingweron
        Not sure if the battle crash reported here was fixed in the latest iteration. It wasn't one of the listed conditions.

        Angband 4.0 beta release - Angband Forums
        http://angband.oook.cz/forum/showpost.php?p=100276&postcount=306
        Angband gameplay, features, trick, bugs


        EDIT: I'll let you know if I find another one in the current version.
        No need - I have just confirmed that it does fix that crash (if you're wondering how the story ends, the vampire dies and drops stuff )
        One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
        In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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          • Nick
            Vanilla maintainer
            • Apr 2007
            • 9637
            #438
            Originally posted by Ingwe Ingweron
            Angband 4.0 dev ac26dbd

            Are enemy Mana Bolts now super-powered?

            Just ran into Baphomet and the monster description shows he can cast a mana bolt for 1566 damage! Checking out some of the other monsters:

            Sauron and Morgoth: Mana Storm (1600) same as Mana Bolt (1600)

            That's messed up.
            I suspect this is a reporting problem rather than a damage problem, but am still looking into it.

            EDIT: Confirmed - it affects monster memory display but not actual damage done, and will be fixed in the next update
            Last edited by Nick; April 22, 2015, 00:20.
            One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
            In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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              • Nick
                Vanilla maintainer
                • Apr 2007
                • 9637
                #439
                Update be2a114 fixes
                • Ice attacks not being reduced by RCold (thanks PowerWyrm)
                • Stupid damage numbers in monster bolt and ball attacks
                • Numerous pricing problems


                In fact, the last two were related, as miscalculating spell damage affected monster power, which affected object power, which affected prices (and in fact randarts a little).

                Please report any pricing weirdness - I think it all should be as for 3.5.1 now.
                One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                  • PowerWyrm
                    Prophet
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 2986
                    #440
                    In 3.5, looking at a blade of chaos on the floor was mentioning the obvious "provides resistance to chaos" in the info. It's not the case anymore. Is that intended?
                    PWMAngband variant maintainer - check https://github.com/draconisPW/PWMAngband (or http://www.mangband.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=9) to learn more about this new variant!

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                      • Ingwe Ingweron
                        Veteran
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 2129
                        #441
                        Angband 4.0 dev be2a114 -Pathing difficulties

                        Here's a savefile with an example of one of the pathing problems. The black wraith and Baphomet seem to be having problems finding @ after he phased and quaffed potions to heal up. Tester.zip
                        “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
                        ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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                          • Nomad
                            Knight
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 958
                            #442
                            If you get a "Your [object] has recharged" message in the same turn that you would have hit the edge of a trap detection boundary while running, you end up running on an extra square and stopping just outside the boundary instead of on it. At least, I think that's what's happening there - I've twice noticed @ running past the edge of a detection area when I got a recharge message. (Possibly other types of messages interrupting running are causing the same issue too? That could be what's behind the intermittent 'run past' bug.)

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                              • Ingwe Ingweron
                                Veteran
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 2129
                                #443
                                Angband 4.0 dev be2a114 -Pathing difficulties

                                Here's another example. You can rest without moving until the cows come home and the Energy Hound will not come after @. Tester.zip
                                “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
                                ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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                                  • Ingwe Ingweron
                                    Veteran
                                    • Jan 2009
                                    • 2129
                                    #444
                                    Angband 4.0 dev be2a114 -CRASH

                                    Just crashed reading several ?Satisfy Hunger in succession. Not easily replicable, so no savefile is attached.
                                    “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
                                    ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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                                      • Nick
                                        Vanilla maintainer
                                        • Apr 2007
                                        • 9637
                                        #445
                                        Originally posted by Ingwe Ingweron
                                        Angband 4.0 dev be2a114 -CRASH

                                        Just crashed reading several ?Satisfy Hunger in succession. Not easily replicable, so no savefile is attached.
                                        From your inventory, or the floor?
                                        One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                                        In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                                          • Ingwe Ingweron
                                            Veteran
                                            • Jan 2009
                                            • 2129
                                            #446
                                            Originally posted by Nick
                                            From your inventory, or the floor?
                                            From the floor.

                                            EDIT: Maybe like in Monty Python, it was just one thin mint too much and @ exploded!
                                            Last edited by Ingwe Ingweron; April 23, 2015, 16:19.
                                            “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
                                            ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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                                              • Ingwe Ingweron
                                                Veteran
                                                • Jan 2009
                                                • 2129
                                                #447
                                                Angband 4.0 dev be2a114

                                                After killing Sauron. If @ returns to town before descending to DL 100, @ cannot get past DL 99. ?Deep Descent returns @ to DL 99 not DL 100. Also, DL 99 has no downstairs even though Sauron is already dead.
                                                “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
                                                ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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                                                  • fizzix
                                                    Prophet
                                                    • Aug 2009
                                                    • 3025
                                                    #448
                                                    Originally posted by Ingwe Ingweron
                                                    Angband 4.0 dev be2a114

                                                    After killing Sauron. If @ returns to town before descending to DL 100, @ cannot get past DL 99. ?Deep Descent returns @ to DL 99 not DL 100. Also, DL 99 has no downstairs even though Sauron is already dead.
                                                    Are you playing with forced descent on?

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                                                      • fizzix
                                                        Prophet
                                                        • Aug 2009
                                                        • 3025
                                                        #449
                                                        The hound movement might be related to pack AI behavior. It's hard to tell. I'll try to look into it later to figure out what it's trying to do.

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                                                          • Ingwe Ingweron
                                                            Veteran
                                                            • Jan 2009
                                                            • 2129
                                                            #450
                                                            Originally posted by fizzix
                                                            Are you playing with forced descent on?
                                                            No. Playing Standarts and regular options for my testing purposes. Just burned a !Enlightenment to demonstrate. Check out the full map - no downstairs. Check out the monster memory, Sauron is dead.

                                                            By the way, here is another example of the pathing problem. The @ can rest forever and the hydras do not move up to take him on.

                                                            Tester.zip
                                                            “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
                                                            ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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