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  • Mondkalb
    Knight
    • Apr 2007
    • 982

    #76
    Is it wise to loose rNether for a little speed, when he can haste himself to +30? I know, lots of people don't think rNether that important, but OTOH, why hait been removed from Nary then?)

    Also, don't rely on staffs, Morgoth drains charges if he touches you.
    Carry all your Life potions, because Morgoth drains stats and it looks like your DEX and INT are not sustained.

    Make sure that you are not full at the beginning of the fight with Morgoth, otherwise the potion quaffing might make you gorge and slow you down.
    Last edited by Mondkalb; April 10, 2013, 07:37.
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    • Timo Pietilä
      Prophet
      • Apr 2007
      • 4096

      #77
      Originally posted by Mondkalb
      Is it wise to loose rNether for a little speed, when he can haste himself to +30?
      When you don't have perfect saving throw brain smash slows you down.

      Morgoth nether attack is weak, weakest of them all, you are lucky if he uses that instead of anything else. Nether ball attack is quite weak unlike darkness or manastorms. Something between 160 and 250 for Morgoth (10d10+mlvl+50 = 205 average). I wouldn't worry about that. If Morgoth or Sauron summons heavy nether breathers then either banish or tele-other them. At this point that would be either Nightcrawler or Dracolich. Those two are only non-uniques that can do over 400 points of damage using nether breath, and both of them move at speed +10 so you have plenty of time to deal with them.

      Dal-i-Thalion does give +5 dex and losing that can be bigger problem than losing rNether.

      IMO high resistances as damage preventers are overrated. For majority of those side-effects are far more deadly than actual damage, and for nether side-effect is pretty much irrelevant. You just need to know what monster can do and act accordingly.

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      • Raajaton
        Swordsman
        • May 2012
        • 296

        #78
        Thanks, I'll probably try to take on at least Sauron tonight. I may be over cautious and attempt to find some more healing consumables beforehand just to be on the safe side.

        Just out of curiosity, will the dungeon continue generating vaults if you kill all of the uniques? Seeing as there is always at least 1 or 2 inside, I wasn't sure if having a unique was a prerequisite for it to generate in the first place.

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        • debo
          Veteran
          • Oct 2011
          • 2402

          #79
          With your stuff, grinding around L90-L100 for consumables shouldn't be that hard. Just don't get hurt and use more consumables

          I'm pretty sure vaults will still show up, and uniques will be replaced by high-level monsters if they're all dead. I thought the danger levels in vaults were 'suggestions' in that way, but I could be mentally crossing things with Sil.
          Glaurung, Father of the Dragons says, 'You cannot avoid the ballyhack.'

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          • Raajaton
            Swordsman
            • May 2012
            • 296

            #80
            Yep, you're right. Just stumbled on a unique-less vault.

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            • Oramin
              Swordsman
              • Jun 2012
              • 371

              #81
              Originally posted by Mondkalb
              Is it wise to loose rNether for a little speed, when he can haste himself to +30? I know, lots of people don't think rNether that important, but OTOH, why hait been removed from Nary then?)

              Also, don't rely on staffs, Morgoth drains charges if he touches you.
              Carry all your Life potions, because Morgoth drains stats and it looks like your DEX and INT are not sustained.

              Make sure that you are not full at the beginning of the fight with Morgoth, otherwise the potion quaffing might make you gorge and slow you down.
              Solution - Don't let Morgoth touch you.

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              • takkaria
                Veteran
                • Apr 2007
                • 1951

                #82
                Originally posted by Oramin
                Very annoying when the shops don't have the basic spellbooks. Then I go rest up on L1 for 30K turns just to come back up and there's only *1* of the spellbook. Darn it, I told you to hold 3 for me! If you didn't have a monopoly I would take my business to a different store!
                Current V dev branch is set to always stock all town spellbooks, so that won't be such a big deal in future.
                takkaria whispers something about options. -more-

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                • Raajaton
                  Swordsman
                  • May 2012
                  • 296

                  #83
                  Originally posted by Oramin
                  Solution - Don't let Morgoth touch you.
                  Do you end up getting mana stormed more frequently if you fight him with ranged? I assume by eliminating his melee options, you allow for some of his more deadly spells to come out more frequently. However peeking at the spoiler shows that his melee is quite devastating as well. At least his melee can miss I suppose ...

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                  • LostTemplar
                    Knight
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 670

                    #84
                    Do you end up getting mana stormed more frequently if you fight him with ranged?
                    Never. Monster do ranged attack if it wants to, or it just move to player or attack. So if you are far away, monster melee is replaced by monster move. Ranged attack probability is never affected by distance.

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                    • Raajaton
                      Swordsman
                      • May 2012
                      • 296

                      #85
                      Ahh that makes sense. Thanks.

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                      • Raajaton
                        Swordsman
                        • May 2012
                        • 296

                        #86
                        I did it!!! Finally got my first win!!!

                        Thank you so much to everyone who kept answering my non-stop series of questions, and following my trials and tribulations.

                        I've waited for this moment for a long time, and man does it feel good!!

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                        • Oramin
                          Swordsman
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 371

                          #87
                          Congratulations!

                          And you did it in, what was it, 2 days?

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                          • Raajaton
                            Swordsman
                            • May 2012
                            • 296

                            #88
                            A touch longer. I started him Saturday morning. I've played far too much since then.
                            Last edited by Raajaton; April 11, 2013, 03:43.

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                            • Estie
                              Veteran
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 2343

                              #89
                              Congratulations! Very nice armour, I have yet to add a dwarven PDSM to my collection.

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                              • HallucinationMushroom
                                Knight
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 785

                                #90
                                Alright, good job man! It's an accomplishment you'll never forget. You can now amaze your relatives and friends with this feat from a game they've never heard of. Make sure you always talk about during Christmas holiday. Haha. It's what I do, anyway.
                                You are on something strange

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