What was the item on your early x-9 level ?

[Pete Mack]

Ouch! I hate those guys--confusion, invisible, and double risk of big damage breath. Way worse than Death drake.

[EpicMan]

Nick-
Most of the time max level for artifacts is not an issue. But for artifact lights, it can be a problem.

Maybe the max level should just be dropped from the artifact lights. There's not many of them so they shouldn't cause real issues dropping late.

[Estie]

Maybe the max level should just be dropped from the artifact lights. There's not many of them so they shouldn't cause real issues dropping late.

The max level should be dropped period. Whats the point of it ?

[Nick]

The max level should be dropped period. Whats the point of it ?

I believe the original point was to stop the anticlimax of finding a 'thanc at DL98, and it's use for regular and ego-items especially was part of balancing drops and fixing the too-much-junk problem.

Agreed it doesn't make a lot of sense for randarts.

[Estie]

The anticlimax argument is invalid unless you prevent _all_ lower quality daggers (items) from dropping, not just artifacts. And making such judgements on behalf of the player is over reaching. Who knows, maybe the +2 con bonus from a dagger of Westernesse is just what this ironman character needs to be ready for Morgoth ?

I actually remember an ironman warrior of mine who used a crappy randart digger for the con bonus and killed Morgoth with a launcher.

[Grotug]

I find a 9 object on a fairly early level in this latest video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YSqwIJq-6o

But honestly I wonder if the object I found really is a 9 object at 1050' or did I destroy a ring of speed? I'll never know....

[Estie]

Dlvl 12, warrior: Chaos dragon scale mail.

Fear me, clan Mim!

[Estie]

Dlvl 11, 3-9: "trickery

[Estie]

Dlvl 15, 4-9: RoS +6

[gglibertine]

I thought my dwarf paladin was doing really well with these items sub-DL9:

a) a Main Gauche (Defender) (1d5) (+7,+15) [+6] <+3>
Found lying on the floor at 150 feet (level 3)

+3 stealth.
Provides resistance to Acid, Lightning, Fire, Cold.
Cannot be harmed by Acid.
Sustains dexterity.
Feather Falling. Speeds regeneration. Grants the ability to see
invisible things. Prevents paralysis.

Combat info:
3.4 blows/round.
With +0 STR and +6 DEX you would get 3.8 blows
Average damage/round: 88.4.

h) a Cloak of Stealth [1,+7] <+3>
Found lying on the floor of a special room at 250 feet (level 5)

+3 stealth.

r) a Wand of Drain Life (4 charges)

b) a Dagger of *Slay Undead* (1d4) (+3,+5) <+2>
Dropped by a small kobold at 50 feet (level 1)

+2 wisdom.
Slays undead (powerfully).
Grants telepathy.

Combat info:
3.4 blows/round.
With +0 STR and +6 DEX you would get 3.8 blows
Average damage/round: 86 vs undead and 48.8 vs. others.
Average thrown damage: 113.6 vs undead and 22.7 vs. others.

c) a Sling of Extra Shots (x2) (+10,+9) <+2>
Dropped by a small kobold at 50 feet (level 1)

+2 shooting speed.

d) a Light Crossbow of Accuracy (x3) (+19,+5)
Dropped by Sméagol at 150 feet (level 3)

Then, on DLs 12-13:

j) a Metal Cap of Wisdom [3,+9] <+2>
Found lying on the floor at 600 feet (level 12)

+2 wisdom.
Sustains wisdom.

b) a Long Bow of Accuracy (x3) (+19,+10)
Dropped by a rogue at 650 feet (level 13)

i) the Small Metal Shield 'Vornar' [5,+11] <+3>
Dropped by Wormtongue, Agent of Saruman, at 600 feet (level 12)

+3 strength.
Provides resistance to Acid, Lightning, Cold, Light, Dark, Sound.
Provides protection from confusion.
Cannot be harmed by Acid.
Speeds regeneration. Prevents paralysis.

An auspicious beginning to what will undoubtedly end in YASD.

[Estie]

HE warrior, dlvl 16: Chaos DSM of Craftsmanship [+19].

[Estie]

Dlvl 15, 1-9: "trickery.

[gglibertine]

Leather Gloves of Slaying (+3, +3) [1, +4], found on DL1. Then at DL7, LF 3-9, found a RoS +6.

Still on the same level:
the Pendant of Marangri <+3>
Dropped by Orfax, Son of Boldor, at 350 feet (level 7)

+3 intelligence.
Provides resistance to Lightning, Nether, Disenchantment.
Provides protection from confusion.
Sustains intelligence.
Slows your metabolism.

Too bad it's not WIS (I'm playing a paladin), but I'll take it.

[sffp]

My Hobbit Necromancer found:

a Book of Nature Magics [Nature Craft]

Also a ring of Lightning but really a letdown

[Ed_47569]

300' my warrior gets a 2-9 feeling.

Rod of Speed.