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  • swim
    Apprentice
    • Mar 2021
    • 82

    Family Tree

    Hello!

    I decided to make a family tree showing the lineage of variants, because I felt that this is something that I really would have liked to have when I was starting to research Angband, but couldn't find one!
    I didn't include every single variant, but just the ones that seemed to be the "main" group.

    Check it out here.

    My sources were tangar's variants table, RogueBasin, and GitHub pages.

    I may add some color coding later but I'm pleased with what I have for now.

    Let me know if you see any errors, or if you have any ideas for ways to improve it.
    Last edited by swim; July 7, 2022, 12:41.
  • Nick
    Vanilla maintainer
    • Apr 2007
    • 9637

    #2
    That's a really nice balance of simplicity and information.

    Sil was forked from NPPangband, so potentially you could add that in there.
    One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
    In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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    • swim
      Apprentice
      • Mar 2021
      • 82

      #3
      Thanks.

      Updated to include NPPangband

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      • Dean Anderson
        Adept
        • Nov 2009
        • 193

        #4
        I don't know if Cthangband is considered prominent enough to add, but if so it branched from Zangband in 1997 and the latest release was in 2020.

        There's also PernAngband, which became Troubles of Middle Earth (TOME), which became Tales of Maj'Eyal (keeping the TOME name). I couldn't give you dates or an exact lineage for that one, though.

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        • swim
          Apprentice
          • Mar 2021
          • 82

          #5
          If it's been around and updated for 23 years then that seems relevant enough to me! I'll check it out!
          Thanks for the suggestions.
          I find it oddly soothing making adjustments to this tree hahah

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          • swim
            Apprentice
            • Mar 2021
            • 82

            #6
            Updated to include the ToME lineage + Cthangband

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            • Pete Mack
              Prophet
              • Apr 2007
              • 6883

              #7
              @Swim--
              You might consider using a directed graph. In particular, FAAngband 2 is a cross between FAAngband and Angband v4.2. No way would Nick have done it with the 3.0-era code base. The new code is--mostly--a lot easier to deal with. With one exception: monster resistance is more mysterious now.

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              • swim
                Apprentice
                • Mar 2021
                • 82

                #8
                I'm trying to avoid it becoming a beast similar to this nethack tree, but I'll see what I can do!

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                • swim
                  Apprentice
                  • Mar 2021
                  • 82

                  #9
                  Although now that I think about it I wouldn't be a bad idea to have both! A simplified one + a super in depth one with the version numbers.

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                  • budswell
                    Adept
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 159

                    #10
                    Thanks, thats nice and simple and good
                    http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-browse.php?e=budswell
                    http://te4.org/user/1471/characters

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                    • Sideways
                      Knight
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 896

                      #11
                      Composband and FrogComposband are both direct forks of each other. Have fun representing that family history
                      The Complainer worries about the lack of activity here these days.

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                      • Archenoth
                        Scout
                        • May 2020
                        • 26

                        #12
                        Originally posted by swim
                        Hello!

                        I decided to make a family tree showing the lineage of variants, because I felt that this is something that I really would have liked to have when I was starting to research Angband, but couldn't find one!
                        I didn't include every single variant, but just the ones that seemed to be the "main" group.

                        Check it out here.

                        My sources were tangar's variants table, RogueBasin, and GitHub pages.

                        I may add some color coding later but I'm pleased with what I have for now.

                        Let me know if you see any errors, or if you have any ideas for ways to improve it.
                        Ooh! This is really pretty! Nice work~

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                        • swim
                          Apprentice
                          • Mar 2021
                          • 82

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Sideways
                          Composband and FrogComposband are both direct forks of each other. Have fun representing that family history
                          What do you mean? All sources I see online say that FrogComposband is simply a variant of Composband? FrogComposband launched after Composband, and FrogComposband has been updated more recently.

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                          • Sideways
                            Knight
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 896

                            #14
                            Originally posted by swim
                            What do you mean? All sources I see online say that FrogComposband is simply a variant of Composband? FrogComposband launched after Composband, and FrogComposband has been updated more recently.
                            Composband's history is somewhat convoluted. It started out as a fork of elliposchengband 6.1.0; that early elli-based version of Composband (then stylized as ComPosband with an uppercase P) was made available for play on angband.live, but never got an official release version before Gwarl (the Composband developer) scrapped the elli base and re-based the game off normal PosChengband; so the first release version was ComPosband 7.0.3, forked from PosChengband 7.0.2.

                            FrogComposband 7.0.strawberry, the first release version of FrogComposband, was forked from ComPosband 7.0.3. Gwarl then halted development on 7.0.4 and forked Composband 7.1.0 from FrogComposband 7.0.strawberry; so each variant is a direct fork of the other, and Composband is its own grandfather.
                            The Complainer worries about the lack of activity here these days.

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                            • swim
                              Apprentice
                              • Mar 2021
                              • 82

                              #15
                              Oh wow. ok... I have an idea...

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