What's the most annoying thing in Angband (without dying)?

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  • Pete Mack
    Prophet
    • Apr 2007
    • 6883

    @MattB
    What you said. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the already-way-more-than-good-enough.

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    • Nick
      Vanilla maintainer
      • Apr 2007
      • 9634

      Originally posted by Jay
      I do use the ~ key and yes, it's very helpful to see what I've got at home. Still, it's a pain when your house is full and you come across a decent artifact shield, for example, and don't know if that particular combination of resists is going to be important later.

      The other thing that comes to mind is that, you know, if you have enough !*healing* on hand you can probably take out Morgoth anyway, even without the optimum set of gear that came to you during the game. Being able to have twice as many items in your house would just streamline the inventory management side of the game.
      If you want, you can go into the constants.txt file and play with the line
      Code:
      # Maximum number of discrete objects in store inventory
      store:inven-max:24
      to increase the number of store (and home) items. I believe it may give you some weirdness with store item labels (and who knows, maybe other issues).

      If you do mess with this file (or any of the other datafiles), the best practice is to leave the original in place, and put your edited version in your user directory (~/.angband/Angband in linux, lib\user in Windows, ~/Documents/Angband in MacOS).
      One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
      In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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      • archolewa
        Swordsman
        • Feb 2019
        • 400

        Originally posted by Jay
        Being able to have twice as many items in your house would just streamline the inventory management side of the game.
        Or paradoxically, you could play without using your House at all. Since I started playing without Recall (though I do still have upstairs, I'm not quite that crazy yet), I have found the inventory shuffle to be nonexistent. When you find an item you look at your inventory and ask "Is this item worth carrying? What is worth dropping to carry it?" which is a much faster question to answer than "Which combination of my dozen artifacts will give me the fullest spread of resistances, speed and HP?"

        And having played Frogcomposband, I can say that increasing your house capacity does *not* streamline inventory shuffle, it makes it worse because you have far more possible combinations to sift through.

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        • Selkie
          Swordsman
          • Aug 2020
          • 434

          Originally posted by archolewa
          And having played Frogcomposband, I can say that increasing your house capacity does *not* streamline inventory shuffle, it makes it worse because you have far more possible combinations to sift through.
          This is actually just great advice for life in general. I remember my tiny flat in London and how hard it was too keep it tidy. I always thought moving to a bigger house would make it easier to store all my junk. Well I moved and things are just as untidy and there's even more junk

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          • fph
            Veteran
            • Apr 2009
            • 1030

            You drop the multi-hued dragon scale mail in your home.
            Does it spark joy? [y/n]
            --
            Dive fast, die young, leave a high-CHA corpse.

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            • Jay
              Adept
              • Dec 2011
              • 104

              So many good replies!

              MattB & Pete Mack: Yeah, it's not necessary to have a perfect set of gear and I probably overthink this part. Still, it's amazing on the occasions when it all comes together.

              Nick: Thanks. I'll give this a try and report back on the results.

              archolewa: I haven't tried an ironman game yet but I probably should.

              fph: I almost made a Marie Kondo joke in one of my previous posts on this. Yours made me lol.
              Oh you icky things, don't you know you're driving your mamas and papas insane…

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              • archolewa
                Swordsman
                • Feb 2019
                • 400

                Originally posted by Jay
                archolewa: I haven't tried an ironman game yet but I probably should.
                I would strongly recommend everyone try it a couple of times. It's amazing how much of an impact losing access to the town has on the game. Lots of gear that you mostly ignore (like Staves of Cure Light Wounds) become valuable. The game's pace is *much* faster. You have to be much more conscious of resource consumption in the early game.

                Took me a few games to get used to it, but now that I have, I could never go back to the town.

                Only thing I do wish is that Vanilla had dungeon stores, like some variants. It'd be kind of nice to have something to do with all that gold.

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                • Sky
                  Veteran
                  • Oct 2016
                  • 2321

                  Originally posted by archolewa
                  It'd be kind of nice to have something to do with all that gold.
                  you get to spend it when you retire.
                  "i can take this dracolich"

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                  • DavidMedley
                    Veteran
                    • Oct 2019
                    • 1004

                    Originally posted by fph
                    You drop the multi-hued dragon scale mail in your home.
                    Does it spark joy? [y/n]
                    Haha
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                    • Jay
                      Adept
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 104

                      Originally posted by Nick
                      If you want, you can go into the constants.txt file and play with the line
                      Code:
                      # Maximum number of discrete objects in store inventory
                      store:inven-max:24
                      to increase the number of store (and home) items. I believe it may give you some weirdness with store item labels (and who knows, maybe other issues).

                      If you do mess with this file (or any of the other datafiles), the best practice is to leave the original in place, and put your edited version in your user directory (~/.angband/Angband in linux, lib\user in Windows, ~/Documents/Angband in MacOS).
                      This is working pretty well. The only drawback I've found so far is that if there are 30+ items in your home, one of them (and possibly more) won't be labeled properly, so it's impossible to get or inspect them. However, if you remove one of the items above it in the list, the object in question will then be labeled and can be retrieved. All in all, not bad!
                      Oh you icky things, don't you know you're driving your mamas and papas insane…

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                      • jevansau
                        Adept
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 200

                        Originally posted by Jay
                        This is working pretty well. The only drawback I've found so far is that if there are 30+ items in your home, one of them (and possibly more) won't be labeled properly, so it's impossible to get or inspect them. However, if you remove one of the items above it in the list, the object in question will then be labeled and can be retrieved. All in all, not bad!
                        Hi Jay, the trick is to position to the item of interest using arrow keys etc. Then g or l followed by <enter> work.

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                        • Jay
                          Adept
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 104

                          Originally posted by jevansau
                          Hi Jay, the trick is to position to the item of interest using arrow keys etc. Then g or l followed by <enter> work.
                          Thanks — that does the trick.
                          Oh you icky things, don't you know you're driving your mamas and papas insane…

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                          • Hounded
                            Adept
                            • Jan 2019
                            • 128

                            You have 4 staves of magic mapping with 4 charges.

                            You pick up a staff of magic mapping.

                            You have 5 staves of magic mapping with 11 charges.

                            Of course it's worst with the weaker races. So close to being able to do the drop dance but now you're stuck with the weight or you sacrifice charges.

                            Applies to Teleport and any number of other stacking inv.
                            It Breathes. You die.

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                            • DavidMedley
                              Veteran
                              • Oct 2019
                              • 1004

                              That is annoying. I turn off that option when playing a character that can cast Recharge.
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                              • Selkie
                                Swordsman
                                • Aug 2020
                                • 434

                                Accidentally reading a scroll of mass banishment in town when you meant to read WoR.

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