Current master post-4.1.3

[Youssarian]

In the black market today, a ring of the mouse was for sale for 0 gold. It was already in the store, not something I tried to sell.

I bought it for 0 gold. Still feel I got ripped off though.

Also another bug it seems. I found the gauntlets paraegen and equipped them to my necromancer. It has +1 light under its powers. Now as I walk walls don't show up at all. The path I walk down is highlighted the way it does for a necromancer, but nothing else. It's the same way when a person moves without a torch or light source.

I took off the gauntlets and it returned to normal when walking and highlighting the walls and environment.

[Pete Mack]

Rogue book two. Why not include recall? Surely that fits in with these. And I really miss create doors. That is a really interesting way to make a zero-fail temporary shelter. It takes genuine plannning.

[Youssarian]

They get a spell which does this and more.

I clearly haven't made it that far. Let me get back to work on getting that...

[Nick]

It would be great for necromancers if we could take control of one undead monster at a time or summon a minion that lasts for x-turns then dies (re-dies?)

They get a spell which does this and more.

[Nick]

I'm playing my first deep necromancer, now. Got it into the 90s, and it went dark, can't see anything. Is there a way to fix this, or will I have to abort the character? I always run in gdb, so I can tweak something if it will help.

A savefile would help Randart file too if you're using them.

Also, bug reports/feature requests for necromancers:

* As mentioned elsewhere, it would be nice if they could use artifact lights for their bonuses without incurring penalties.
* Lanterns of true seeing are very powerful; would be nice if there were a way to dump them out so we can use them right away. As it is, we can fill a second lantern then use the empty true seeing, but lanterns are rare early on, so that's inconvenient.
* Would be nice if !Enlightenment also didn't cause a whole level full of penalties, i.e., let it show us all the stuff but not light the level.
* Would be nice if "create darkness" exposed everything in a room (objects, distant monsters) like light spells do for everybody else.
* Would be nice if "read minds" located objects, perhaps traps, and mindless monsters that are visible to the detected mindful monsters.
* I would prefer that the necromancers vision look like everybody else's vision to me, the player. I'm not a fan of the "darker visibility". The necromancer sees in the dark like other classes see in the light, so why should I see it differently?

Despite my depth, I haven't found any dungeon books yet, so I can't comment on how the class plays with those, but pre-dungeon books, the class plays like a weaker mage (magic missile doesn't work on everybody, and can't see very far) without utility spells. This character has only survived so long because of a very nice weapon that allowed warrior-mage style play.

There are still some things to work out with the lighting; also you are missing A LOT if you don't have any dungeon books (which is kind of odd).

[Youssarian]

It would be great for necromancers if we could take control of one undead monster at a time or summon a minion that lasts for x-turns then dies (re-dies?)

[kandrc]

Next on my agenda are a couple of fixes to necromancers - light issues

I'm playing my first deep necromancer, now. Got it into the 90s, and it went dark, can't see anything. Is there a way to fix this, or will I have to abort the character? I always run in gdb, so I can tweak something if it will help.

Also, bug reports/feature requests for necromancers:

* As mentioned elsewhere, it would be nice if they could use artifact lights for their bonuses without incurring penalties.
* Lanterns of true seeing are very powerful; would be nice if there were a way to dump them out so we can use them right away. As it is, we can fill a second lantern then use the empty true seeing, but lanterns are rare early on, so that's inconvenient.
* Would be nice if !Enlightenment also didn't cause a whole level full of penalties, i.e., let it show us all the stuff but not light the level.
* Would be nice if "create darkness" exposed everything in a room (objects, distant monsters) like light spells do for everybody else.
* Would be nice if "read minds" located objects, perhaps traps, and mindless monsters that are visible to the detected mindful monsters.
* I would prefer that the necromancers vision look like everybody else's vision to me, the player. I'm not a fan of the "darker visibility". The necromancer sees in the dark like other classes see in the light, so why should I see it differently?

Despite my depth, I haven't found any dungeon books yet, so I can't comment on how the class plays with those, but pre-dungeon books, the class plays like a weaker mage (magic missile doesn't work on everybody, and can't see very far) without utility spells. This character has only survived so long because of a very nice weapon that allowed warrior-mage style play.

[Nick]

https://i.imgur.com/DDyF6Rb.jpg

Has this always been possible when entering a new level? Or is this a 4.1.3 bug?

No secret doors, ofc.

Yes, this has happened to me too - it seems to be the modified generation algorithm and interesting rooms. Filed that and the other corridor issues (dead ends, weirdness around circular rooms) as a bug.

[Sphara]

Have you checked the starting square? It doesn't check on the turn you enter the level.

Yes of course. This seems like a minor bug to me.

[wobbly]

Have you checked the starting square? It doesn't check on the turn you enter the level.

[Sphara]

https://i.imgur.com/DDyF6Rb.jpg

Has this always been possible when entering a new level? Or is this a 4.1.3 bug?

No secret doors, ofc.


EDIT: If it helps, the same area mapped:

https://i.imgur.com/Pdv3Utp.jpg

[Nick]

Thanks a lot!

BTW, there is a way to load a 376 savefile (16 Mar) from this new version? I think that the book changes broke the savefile compatibility. Thanks again!

Probably not, I'm afraid. Savefiles are being broken quite a lot at the moment; I think most characters will just need to stick with the version they start with.

[Diego Gonzalez]

Thanks a lot!

BTW, there is a way to load a 376 savefile (16 Mar) from this new version? I think that the book changes broke the savefile compatibility. Thanks again!

[Nick]

New builds up on the nightlies page with the following changes:

• More robust randart file handling
• Fix to lore file handling that should make that more robust too
• Ents and trees no longer appear under insects in monster knowledge (thanks Voovus - other stuff noted too)
• Nerfs to some monsters:
  • Blood falcons have had their damage halved (but keep their speed)
  • White wraiths now native to level 38
  • Gorgons have had their casting rate halved
  • 9-headed hydras have had a 40% cut in HP

Not a lot, but concentrated on what seemed most urgent. Next on my agenda are a couple of fixes to necromancers - light issues, and maybe get Disenchant earlier.

[mrfy]

most disappointing randart?

Playing the recent nightly. Found this on level 17:

the Awl-Pike Hadur (1d8) (+5,+7)

Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.

Average damage/round 14.1.

That's it. My current dagger of frost does more damage per round.