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  • Petoften
    Knight
    • Jun 2018
    • 566

    Originally posted by Pete Mack
    You are massively overpowered for your current dungeon level, which is why it seems so hard to optimize.
    That's how it feels except that one fight. I'm going down - l27 currently - but not sure I want to use the scroll of deep dive I just found...

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    • Derakon
      Prophet
      • Dec 2009
      • 9022

      Originally posted by Petoften
      That's how it feels except that one fight. I'm going down - l27 currently - but not sure I want to use the scroll of deep dive I just found...
      You're overthinking it. Live fast, try everything, if you die, start over.

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      • Pete Mack
        Prophet
        • Apr 2007
        • 6883

        @Derakon:
        Sure. But the main point is that there is no reason at all to wait in the shallower regions for any longer than you absolutely have to. If you are clearing DL 25 instead of taking the stairs down, you are just spinning your wheels. (Unless there is a good level feeling of course. Then you might spend a little time on it.)
        I don't think that Petoften is paying attention to this part of the advice, though.

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        • Petoften
          Knight
          • Jun 2018
          • 566

          Found a scroll of teleportation. No room for it, though it'd be handy since my staff of teleportation might not work.

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          • Petoften
            Knight
            • Jun 2018
            • 566

            Originally posted by Derakon
            You're overthinking it. Live fast, try everything, if you die, start over.
            No way! I have many hours and more and more days invested in this playthrough, gonna take a break when this run ends

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            • Petoften
              Knight
              • Jun 2018
              • 566

              Originally posted by Pete Mack
              @Derakon:
              Sure. But the main point is that there is no reason at all to wait in the shallower regions for any longer than you absolutely have to. If you are clearing DL 25 instead of taking the stairs down, you are just spinning your wheels. (Unless there is a good level feeling of course. Then you might spend a little time on it.)
              I don't think that Petoften is paying attention to this part of the advice, though.
              I am, in moderation - I'm going down without clearing levels totally, but gradually, one bad mob can end a run

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              • Petoften
                Knight
                • Jun 2018
                • 566

                Things like the rod of mapping and rod of treasure finding don't seem to cover the whole level.

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                • Petoften
                  Knight
                  • Jun 2018
                  • 566

                  New hardest fight so far on level 29 - 2 uniques, one was 'Azog King of the Huru-Kai'... more hard hitting high HP.

                  Had to take turns drinking cure critical wounds and attacking, after using the dragonbreath...

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                  • Petoften
                    Knight
                    • Jun 2018
                    • 566

                    Some more loot I'd like from the fight though... I have a nice sling but a [15,13] bow dropped...

                    Some Iron boots of speed (4,+11) [+3]

                    No idea what a robe of Elvenkind is, but doesn't sound good for a troll warrior.

                    OOOOHhhh the phial of galadriel! I assume I drop the everburning lamp now.

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                    • Petoften
                      Knight
                      • Jun 2018
                      • 566

                      OK, made it to l30... right away, more ranged mobs, first mob destroyed a ring...

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                      • Pete Mack
                        Prophet
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 6883

                        How many times have we heard this? Getting to CL 28 or so is actually pretty easy IF you dive. And it doesn't take very long to do it.
                        You'll lose that character soon enough, somewhere between DL 35 and dl 45 or so. Next time, try spending less time before DL 30 (and before DL 40.)
                        I actually recommend making a backup when you get to DL 40, then playing that character until you can get to DL 70 somewhat reliably. That is the hardest part of the game to learn, and you will learn faster if you aren't spending so much time just getting there.


                        Originally posted by Petoften
                        No way! I have many hours and more and more days invested in this playthrough, gonna take a break when this run ends

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                        • Petoften
                          Knight
                          • Jun 2018
                          • 566

                          Originally posted by Pete Mack
                          How many times have we heard this? Getting to CL 28 or so is actually pretty easy IF you dive. And it doesn't take very long to do it.
                          You'll lose that character soon enough, somewhere between DL 35 and dl 45 or so. Next time, try spending less time before DL 30 (and before DL 40.)
                          I actually recommend making a backup when you get to DL 40, then playing that character until you can get to DL 70 somewhat reliably. That is the hardest part of the game to learn, and you will learn faster if you aren't spending so much time just getting there.
                          Is that save-scumming though?

                          I don't think backup copies are the intent?

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                          • Pete Mack
                            Prophet
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 6883

                            It is savescumming in the letter of the law but not in the spirit. If you have a single checkpoint where you can get to reliably, it is a valuable learning tool. Real save scumming means making a bacmup whenever you feel like it, and it teaches bad habits. But hours of messing around before DL 40 teaches different bad habits.

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                            • Petoften
                              Knight
                              • Jun 2018
                              • 566

                              Full inv as usual...

                              Only thing I'm seeing to drop is ring of fire and cold.

                              Potions: serious and critical, heroism, berserker strength, neutralize and resist poison

                              Scrolls: Phase door, recall

                              Wands: None

                              Rods: treasure, map, light, illuminate, lightning bolt

                              Staves: sleep monster, teleportation, speed

                              Ring of free action to swap in.

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                              • Pete Mack
                                Prophet
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 6883

                                Which potions (or other objects) do you actually use? See earlier comment about all the things that CCW is strictly better than.
                                Take a look at some recent characters on the ladder that are your class, and are roughly at your character level. What are they carrying and storing? They dropped everything else.

                                You have to figure sone of this out for yourself.

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