BOOM!!! Angband in 2hrs30min!!!! (with video)

[thunderf00t]

7m slimepit lv 9
15m +2int weapon! 550ft lv12
17m 600ft Spiderpit! lv15 WAND OF DRAGONFLAME!!!
23m Boots of speed +3 from Grima!
42m potion of intelligence
44m free action
47m arcane control 1200ft lv23
48m resistance
1hr phial and telepathy 1450ft lv24
1hr3m resist nether FIRST CLONE MONSTER!
1h10m second clone monster
1hr14m TOMB OF POWER
1hr16m Weapon with Telepathy
1h17m HANDS ON TOMB OF POWER and artifact sling 1950ft
1hr23 DIVE!!! 150hp at 2250ft!! lv26
1hr24 ring of escaping
1hr33 potion room 2750ft 180hp
1hr36min denied on teleport forbidden
1hr37mins HAND DRUJ 2900ft 196hp
1hr42min lv 40! MASS BANISHMENT!!! 280hp
1hr44min 300hp
1hr47min eye druj 3300ft
1hr50m lv 44 324hp
1hr56 Boots of speed +7
1hr58min Ring Con+4
2hr04 500hp Ring of speed +5
2hr6m Almost killed by Glaudrung
2hr8m dwarven shield 567hp
2h9min Ring of speed +9
2h15min almost killed by time hounds
2h17min GIANT TEMPTATION PIT!!!! Slows down 5 mins!
2hr22min DIVE FAST!!! 4350ft
2hr24min 4950Ft n Sauron
2hr25min Sauron Dead
2hr27min Morgoth Engaged!
2hr30min Morgoth Dead!!!
2hr32min Recap!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWp4Az6v2I0

2hrs25mins is my best...... but i feel 2hrs is possible! :-)
I have been level 40 at the 1hr mark, but the rest of the game just went slow :-(

[Sky]

wow, 7 potions of restore mana for the final fight. i wouldn't go anywhere without at least a dozen.

[Bill Peterson]

I've had a suspicion for a number of years that the developers have been gradually making the game "easier". It would be interesting to see someone try this kind of speedrun with an older version, 3.x or even 2.x

[Nick]

I've had a suspicion for a number of years that the developers have been gradually making the game "easier". It would be interesting to see someone try this kind of speedrun with an older version, 3.x or even 2.x

There's easier, and there's more streamlined. For example, does rune-based ID make the game easier, or just less painful?

[tom]

There's easier, and there's more streamlined. For example, does rune-based ID make the game easier, or just less painful?

Rune-ID makes pre-rune ID angband intolerable, so gee thanks for ruining the whole back catalogue of angband versions

[kineahora]

Rune-ID makes pre-rune ID angband intolerable, so gee thanks for ruining the whole back catalogue of angband versions

Oh boy do I agree with this! Having to deal with identify staves and spells in old versions was a seriously major drag...

[Sky]

see, he's had ONE good idea, and now he won't stop talking about it

[emar]

There's easier, and there's more streamlined. For example, does rune-based ID make the game easier, or just less painful?

"In my opinion part of it is in the name. Angband is the fortress of the great evil of the world, Morgoth. Getting to the bottom of it, and killing him, is going to have to be epic. This is not a "let's go on a random Dungeon Crawl to kill some generic monsters and grab loot" exercise, it's an attempt to overthrow the Middle-Earth equivalent of Satan, defeating most of his minions along the way."

But I guess I'm still salty about the topic.

[Nick]

see, he's had ONE good idea, and now he won't stop talking about it

Wasn't even my idea

[PowerDiver]

I've had a suspicion for a number of years that the developers have been gradually making the game "easier". It would be interesting to see someone try this kind of speedrun with an older version, 3.x or even 2.x

3.1 was terrible. Way easier than 3.0. If you think CLW [potion or mage spell] should be stronger than a 3.0 paladin's healing spell, this was for you.

3.2 was abysmal. It made 3.1 seem hard. I found it impossible to dive fast enough to face a challenge, using every trick I knew.

3.2 was so tragically bad I just quit. The final straw was actually the inspiration for this thread. Someone posted they thought the game could be won in 3 hours, and no one besides me thought that was a bad thing.

I'm trying to play a game of 4.whatever. So far, it's difficulty seems closer to 3.0 than 3.1. If I ever finish, I will post my thoughts.

That old thread was from 2017. I mentioned that I had resorted to playing egoless.

http://angband.oook.cz/forum/showthread.php?t=8293

[Sky]

3.2 was abysmal. It made 3.1 seem hard.

.. but .. but ..

Missiles with slays or brands were made slightly less awesomely effective: the multiplier from the slay/brand is added to the launcher multiplier, rather than multiplied by it. So a x3 bow with a x3 brand does x6 damage not x9.

they nerfed rangers !!
muh x9 shooter !

[Estie]

I play 3.0.9 occasionally (and I would play more if the randart algorithm wasnt so stupid) and while yes, it is harder (than 4), I dont find it that much harder. Longer, for sure, less streamlined, more farming and I very much prefer the range combat there - not enough ammo but higher damage. 4 has become plink archery.

Playing without artifacts would defeat the purpose of my game - finding awesome stuff is what I play for. Upgrading gauntlets of power +4 -> +5 doesnt give me the kicks never mind egoless.

[Pete Mack]

Eddie-
4.2 is still easier than 3.0, except for Rogue and Necromancer. 4.2 rogue is fragile and has almost no buff spells. (It's kinda boring.)

[Pete Mack]

Estie-
Eddie was talking about 3.2 only which was so ridiculously easy he decided to play egoless for the challenge. He did not say it was for fun.

[Sky]

I play 3.0.9 occasionally (and I would play more if the randart algorithm wasnt so stupid).

just for a laugh i downloaded 3.0.6, which is the version i started with, and generated a few artifact spoilers. I found a ring of +10 to everything, rings of power with +26 to damage, bows 6x with +3 shots, weapons with +3 blows, Palantirs, an artifact set with multiple instances of +2/3 blows on helms, cloaks.

I think that the history of Angband is pretty much playing the game and checking what is the most broken thing you can exploit, and then exploting it. Over. And Over. Again.