Sil: What are your least liked features of Sil?

[HugoVirtuoso]

My #1 annoyance is getting the tombstone screen when HP hits 0 (and not -1 like in Vanilla and other variants).

[debo]

I've groused enough about Mewlip amnesia on this forum, but I'd like to go on record in this thread that I still consider amnesia the single most annoying, unfun feature of the game. I won't try to claim again that I can write down the whole map whenever I encounter a Mewlip (admittedly that was a stupid argument) but I can still say that in a year of playing Sil I've never run into a situation where I felt I was in danger due to amnesia—at least violet molds do your character actual harm.

Haha aww... I'm sad to admit that I actually really love that ability. It makes them scary, but in a different way.

[HugoVirtuoso]

One way to make Newlips worse is to make them natives of deeper levels, increase amnesia frequency, and give them higher HP. This way, if Newlip do the amnesia while Shadow spiders, Gwathraukar, and all the nastier foes are nearby, Newlips would be much scarier.

[jujuben]

Haha aww... I'm sad to admit that I actually really love that ability. It makes them scary, but in a different way.

There's nothing quite like Mewlip + Gorcrow = a completely black screen...

[wobbly]

One (extremely minor!) gripe I have is the the descriptions of some of the Abilities are too vague without any (to me) sensible reason for it. Now, I can understand if you don't want to drag out the gory details of exactly how, say, Knock Back works in the short Ability summary text. But I see no real reason for not explaining how, say, Heavy Armor Protection works. I mean, you do it for Hardiness after all.

A couple more where I had the wrong impression until reading the manual:

concentration: "Gives you a +1 bonus to attack for every round spent attacking an enemy ...."
"particular enemy" as it says in the manual clarifies a lot.

subtlety: I had to check the manual to find out whether it worked with "hand & a half" weapons.

[half]

My #1 annoyance is getting the tombstone screen when HP hits 0 (and not -1 like in Vanilla and other variants).

It's not my fault there is an off-by-one error in Angband...

[tungtn]

Nethack has an option to disable rest-on-space. Actually, wikihack says about it ...

Offtopic, but wikihack is frequently outdated and sometimes vandalized. Next time, consider linking to NetHackWiki instead, which is maintained and updated by the current NetHack community.

Not that I'm blaming you; Google's ranking algorithms tend to mean that whatever appears at the top of a search just stays there, no matter how good or bad it is.

EDIT: Fixed link, derp. Now yet another link feeds Google juice to that damn wikia site.

[fph]

Offtopic, but wikihack is frequently outdated and sometimes vandalized. Next time, consider linking to NetHackWiki instead, which is maintained and updated by the current NetHack community.

Not that I'm blaming you; [...]

Thanks for the tip, good to know! I suppose your link was meant to be to this page.

(in this case, the contents of the two pages are identical anyway).

[Starhawk]

I've groused enough about Mewlip amnesia on this forum, but I'd like to go on record in this thread that I still consider amnesia the single most annoying, unfun feature of the game. I won't try to claim again that I can write down the whole map whenever I encounter a Mewlip (admittedly that was a stupid argument) but I can still say that in a year of playing Sil I've never run into a situation where I felt I was in danger due to amnesia—at least violet molds do your character actual harm.

It's a very gentle but real form of harm: you'll spend a few extra turns trying to remember exactly how to get to the stairs. This takes time off your timer and is therefore harmful.

[Patashu]

There is one mechanical disadvantage from losing your memories that can't be overcome by screenshotting the map - you can't see when doors are opened if they're not on your map.

[tungtn]

(in this case, the contents of the two pages are identical anyway).

Yeah? Well now they aren't. :P

[bron]

Here's a totally stupid complaint: Why is Glamdring better than Orcrist? They are always described as "twin" swords, or "mates" to each other, yet in the game Glamdring is basically a (+2) + Defender + Gondolin + Nargothrond Longsword, while Orcrist is the same, except without the Nargothrond part. Was this deliberate? And if so, why? Was Orcrist maybe supposed to have +Doriath ?

Maybe I'm just annoyed because I've found Orcrist a couple of times, but never Glamdring.

[HugoVirtuoso]

My newest complaint:
Getting interrupted during Smithing, even with some monster as weak as an Orc scout. Come on, man!

IMO, there should be an OPTION (maybe as a challenge birth option) that lets you Smith until you actually get attacked, not just interrupted due to the mere appearance of a foe. While getting attacked or even killed while Smithing is crazy (or insane), I think this will make Smithing more entertaining.

[HallucinationMushroom]

How can you smith with a mold watching you? IT IS WATCHING YOU. IT COULD MOVE AT ANY MINUTE. The perspiration builds. It's just too stressful to smith with THAT MOLD there. And, STOP SHOUTING ORC. I Can't focus with all that SHOUTING! Gah, I just hit my thumb! Dammit!

Smithing with distraction is like playing with 2 kids in the house. Good luck getting any quality turns in when they are in the same room.

[HugoVirtuoso]

I see your point. half wanted to make the Smithing realistic. So, mere distractions are supposed to interrupt Smithing as in real-life. It would not be realistic, or even make sense, to get killed outright while Smithing, though who knows in real-life or canonically, I don't know.