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  • PowerDiver
    Prophet
    • Mar 2008
    • 2820

    #91
    In a competition with connected stairs, the winner is going to be the person most willing to abuse stairscumming. Since most of us don't want to play a comp about that, we prefer disconnected stairs.

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    • Seany C
      Swordsman
      • Apr 2007
      • 283

      #92
      A compromise would be an FaA competition as its wilderness is hard-wired to have connected stairs (but with disconnected stairs as options for the dungeons).
      Hmm - did the connected wilderness stairs give anyone a big stair-scumming edge in previous FaA competitions? I suppose the alternative would be to make future FaA competitions ironman events - to paraphrase dos350, "eek"...

      PS Is anyone else tempted to modify Orfax and Boldor to say things like "eek", "hoo", "disconnected stairs please" and "I've got the munchies"? (only relevant for O/Z-variants, unless V uniques can talk now)

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      • Philip
        Knight
        • Jul 2009
        • 909

        #93
        Originally posted by Seany C
        PS Is anyone else tempted to modify Orfax and Boldor to say things like "eek", "hoo", "disconnected stairs please" and "I've got the munchies"? (only relevant for O/Z-variants, unless V uniques can talk now)
        http://angband.oook.cz/forum/showthread.php?t=3993
        Hehehe. This isn't like what you are suggesting, but funny enough.

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        • Psi
          Knight
          • Apr 2007
          • 870

          #94
          Originally posted by Seany C
          Hmm - did the connected wilderness stairs give anyone a big stair-scumming edge in previous FaA competitions?
          It does with non-Ironman mages who can stair scum the wide open Fenns using telekenesis...

          Pre v1, Ang56/58 used to give bountiful treasures. It is toned down now though.

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          • Seany C
            Swordsman
            • Apr 2007
            • 283

            #95
            Heh, that's close enough, Philip. He's turning into a very effective "stay away from drugs, kids" cautionary tale...

            Psi - I'd forgotten about Telekinesis. That combination is pretty unbalancing alright. Talking of FaF competitions, I really ought to set up a competition entry for a weaponless Druid, if only I wasn't too lazy to work out how to disable the a) slot...

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            • LostTemplar
              Knight
              • Aug 2009
              • 670

              #96
              FaA competitions ironman events
              yes, we need more ironman comps.

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              • camlost
                Sangband 1.x Maintainer
                • Apr 2007
                • 523

                #97
                Originally posted by Seany C
                I really ought to set up a competition entry for a weaponless Druid, if only I wasn't too lazy to work out how to disable the a) slot...
                look for functions with "tester_hook" in them. Maybe item_tester_hook_wear.
                a chunk of Bronze {These look tastier than they are. !E}
                3 blank Parchments (Vellum) {No french novels please.}

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                • Nick
                  Vanilla maintainer
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9634

                  #98
                  Originally posted by camlost
                  look for functions with "tester_hook" in them. Maybe item_tester_hook_wear.
                  My first reaction to this was "But we need something which is just changed in the savefile".

                  But in fact, we could have custom versions of the game to be played just for the competition - that might be fun.
                  One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                  In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                  • PowerDiver
                    Prophet
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 2820

                    #99
                    Originally posted by Nick
                    My first reaction to this was "But we need something which is just changed in the savefile".

                    But in fact, we could have custom versions of the game to be played just for the competition - that might be fun.
                    Custom versions will lead to clutter.

                    In this case, could you create a permacursed object and wield it? Then nothing else is ever wielded into that slot.

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                    • Derakon
                      Prophet
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 9022

                      But then you'd use that for your attacks instead of the barehanded attacks.

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                      • Nick
                        Vanilla maintainer
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9634

                        Re-iterating - plan for comp 99 is V3.2. A savefile with good monster memory and disconnected stairs would be nice. We haven't had a V rogue for a while (last one was a kobold 2 years ago).
                        One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                        In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                        • dos350
                          Knight
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 546

                          stairs please, eee, ee its fair , see~ if u arent liking ~ no using! simple strategy!! (no need tell others how to be) ~!!!!!!!!!!!
                          ~eek

                          Reality hits you -more-

                          S+++++++++++++++++++

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                          • pampl
                            RePosBand maintainer
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 225

                            That's not how competitions work. If you let people ride scooters in a foot race, then the race becomes about the person willing to buy the fastest scooter. If most of us want to race on foot (or play without stair scumming) then we have to have a rule that there are no scooters/connected stairs.

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                            • dos350
                              Knight
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 546

                              stairs would make the competition more serious, ee
                              ~eek

                              Reality hits you -more-

                              S+++++++++++++++++++

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                              • Derakon
                                Prophet
                                • Dec 2009
                                • 9022

                                Just give it up, DOS350. You're not going to convince everyone to turn the competition into a fight over who can abuse stairs the most effectively. And make no mistake, that is precisely what turning on connected stairs would do.

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