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[Pete Mack]

No, it looks like a plain old angband dungeon, with all the monsters mixed together. Avoiding the bosses at their native level makes a huge difference.

[MITZE]

UnAngband: Warrior

Started simple and did a quick test run with a maia warrior. Still can't tell whether throwing is borked in some way, but otherwise ran into no obvious bugs.

[unic]

UnAngband has always looked rather intimidating to me, so my preference would be for a not overly difficult class/race combo. No idea what that would be in Un though.

[MITZE]

UnAngband: Mage & Priest

Thaumaturgist mage tried. Didn't last very long because of squishy mage HPs, but didn't run into any obvious bugs.

EDIT: Priest was extremely short-lived. I recommend against going with one for the comp, as the priest's prayer system is incomplete according to documentation and the priest itself seems like it's *highly* reliant on luck for getting usable starting prayers.

[wobbly]

So been playing this a bit & I'd recommend going with something fairly straight forward like a human,high-elf or dwarf warrior or rogue. A couple of things I definitely wouldn't recommend: hobbit warrior - at level 1 I couldn't hit. Like at all. Couldn't even hit throwing oil flasks unless the target was asleep. Ent shaman (w/druid realm) specializing in unarmed - didn't get an attack spell at level 1 & while I could hit by charging I'm pretty sure I was doing 0 damage. Plus I started with a speed penalty.

[Pete Mack]

I'd say warrior, or paladin. Rogue is surprisingly poor at combat and archery, and has only 15 sided HD. Paladin has Detect Evil, and Detect Animal* rods are easy to come by. Going without detection is a huge pain for certain bosses (Dunlending agent, Azog, Ferny.) I don't know if Azog is even possible without at least detect evil. He runs far and fast.
My recommendation is to make it an open competition.

* There are tons of nasty critters it's best to avoid.

[wobbly]

Yeah rogue is a fair bit weaker than in vanilla. The hit dice go up with size & I get the impression race makes a big difference to accuracy. I might try out a half-orc rogue & see if it melees any better.

[MITZE]

Next Comp

Well, before we think about what race/class combo should be played we should probably think about what the point of this particular comp is.

Just showing off the game in general? Specifically showing off the innovative ideas (such as the new and interesting magic spells) in it? Something else?

I get the impression race makes a big difference to accuracy. I might try out a half-orc rogue & see if it melees any better.

Race does make a pretty noticable difference; I know that I've had a much easier time surviving as a dunadan rogue than I have as a man of Dale one.

[Pete Mack]

My suggestion is to hold off for 0.7, when a few glaring balance issues are solved. 0.6.5 was intended as a bug fix release. Any comp now would be reporting a bunch of really obvious problems. Wait until those are fixed, then a comp would actually provide useful feedback.

[debo]

Sorry folks. Things are a little crazy right now. Will have a comp up sometime in the next week or two.

[HugoVirtuoso]

Suggestion for future PosChengband compo: Consider an Archon Force-Trainer? Any thoughts?

[wobbly]

So comp suggestion quick - poschengband iron man high elf ranger. Nature/sorcery easy id&lore, reduced uniques.

[debo]

Sorry for the delay here, folks. I'll have something up soon.

[AnonymousHero]

@all: So, this may be a bit of a weird request... but I'd like to see the top players here try a ToME 2.x (-AH) bard. Yes, bard. (Even if it's the original T2 2.3.4, that'll probably be OK, I haven't changed much wrt. "balance".)

I'm asking purely because it's been known as a ridiculouslty hard class, but I'm seriously considering removing it because it actually takes quite a lot of "if-then-else" code to support. (I think the general conduct for this would be: Only Music-style magic, e.g. no Mindcraft, etc.)

[HugoVirtuoso]

@all: So, this may be a bit of a weird request... but I'd like to see the top players here try a ToME 2.x (-AH) bard. Yes, bard. (Even if it's the original T2 2.3.4, that'll probably be OK, I haven't changed much wrt. "balance".)

I'm asking purely because it's been known as a ridiculouslty hard class, but I'm seriously considering removing it because it actually takes quite a lot of "if-then-else" code to support. (I think the general conduct for this would be: Only Music-style magic, e.g. no Mindcraft, etc.)

For a *real* challenge, this should be at least a LostSoul Bard for shits and giggles