[Announce] FrogComposband 7.1.salmiak released

[GrimaTheBold]

You can transfer effects to wands of higher power, to ego wands, or to non-ego wands of higher capacity (more mana). One example would be taking a power 50 nexus ball wand and transferring the effect to a power 100 wand, giving you a super-powerful nexus ball.

Ah, I see. What I missed at first is that it copies some parts of the source to the destination, but not all. I just looked at the source:

dest_obj->activation.type = src_obj->activation.type;
dest_obj->activation.difficulty = src_obj->activation.difficulty;
dest_obj->activation.cost = src_obj->activation.cost;
dest_obj->activation.extra = src_obj->activation.extra;

So it doesn't copy ego, power or mana, meaning those stay with destination object original values. Now I'm going to drive myself nuts trying to figure out how to optimize my wand collection. Thanks as always Sideways!

[Sideways]

Another device question, since I'm trying Devicemaster for the first time (wands in this case).

What is the use case for the Transfer Effect spell?

You can transfer effects to wands of higher power, to ego wands, or to non-ego wands of higher capacity (more mana). One example would be taking a power 50 nexus ball wand and transferring the effect to a power 100 wand, giving you a super-powerful nexus ball.

[GrimaTheBold]

Another device question, since I'm trying Devicemaster for the first time (wands in this case).

What is the use case for the Transfer Effect spell? All I can think of (though I haven't tried it yet) is to transfer a higher-level wand spell (say Meteor) to an ego-wand (resistance, capacity, etc) version of a lower-level wand spell, say fire bolt. Is that the purpose, or am I not seeing something?

Edit: LOL, it never occurred to me that I'd be able to use devices in Thalos Arena, since no other class can. Finally tried it a wand on a whim against Elder Thing, and what do you know, it works.

[Sideways]

Device skill has no effect on the damage or power level of a device. It is determined when the item is generated, and can only be improved by race/class specialities, super-rare +DevicePower egos and the Device Mastery spell.

[HugoVirtuoso]

AFAIK, impact damage is predetermined when the magical device is generated and probably based on dlvl. Once generated, there is no way to increase impact damage.

[wobbly]

Small request, when you dismiss pets and it's says "x pets dismissed", it'd be nice to get the new upkeep value. It'd also be handy to have some way to tell which pets are hasted. Currently I have to stick numbers on hounds and spiders to tell them apart.

[GrimaTheBold]

Quick question - how does Device skill impact damage from devices, if at all? When I look at the damage of (for example) a wand of magic missile, it seems the damage doesn't change regardless of my device skill (for example, taking on and off gloves with a device skill bonus). Does the damage really not change? Or does it change, it just doesn't reflect in the damage shown when you examine the item?

[Sideways]

Does artifact reforging reroll an artifact's stats/effects guys? And what is the use of max power in reforging? And does it cost gold?

Reforging is pretty expensive. The max reforging power (determined by your fame) indicates how high-scoring an object you can use as the source item. Reforging does not keep any of the stats or bonuses of the source item, but does keep those on the destination item (note though that the destination item cannot already be an artifact or ego).

See the in-game FAQ (?d) for more details.

[AwooWolfWoof]

Does artifact reforging reroll an artifact's stats/effects guys? And what is the use of max power in reforging? And does it cost gold?

I've been playing in coffee-break for a while but I really haven't tried it since most of my runs get cut short in the late 30's to early 40's. Finally got a berserker to DLVL 54 though so I'm pretty happy with that x)

[wobbly]

Temporary brand damage from craft magic isn't displaying on the character sheet for melee. It seems to display just fine on a shooter.

[Bucephalus]

Verbatim, from Help: Pets: What could be nicer than a loyal pet? People sometimes worry their pets will trample them underfoot;

They will, and given the chance, they will remorselessly grind your bones into dust.

Where does it say that? I don't see that in either the salmiak help or the nightly help; on the contrary, they explicitly explain that pets require upkeep and may disappear or turn hostile if neglected too badly.

[Sideways]

The help file for pets says that they won't ever betray you. They will if you're suitably awful to them.

Where does it say that? I don't see that in either the salmiak help or the nightly help; on the contrary, they explicitly explain that pets require upkeep and may disappear or turn hostile if neglected too badly.

[Bucephalus]

The help file for pets says that they won't ever betray you. They will if you're suitably awful to them.

Beastmasters should probably start the game with full monster info.

Necromancers should probably be able to master shovel.

[Bucephalus]

The help file for pets claims that they will not ever betray you. Pets have a chance of betraying you if you're suitably awful to them, which should be common sense, but isn't.

Beastmasters should probably start the game with full monster info.

[HugoVirtuoso]

Rfe: Changing squeaky voice mutation description to, "Your face is rearranged!" while keeping the -4 CHR penalty! If not, I'll at least make this a part of Hugoband and make the CHR penalty steeper and/or add the opposite of reassuring image projection!