Unofficial Oangband release

[Bandobras]

Source .tar.gz file

says

The requested URL /faangband/Oangband110u.tar.gz was not found on this server.

[Nick]

Source .tar.gz file

says

The requested URL /faangband/Oangband110u.tar.gz was not found on this server.

Sorry - I've got confused with my spelling. If you manually ask for /faangband/oangband110u.tar.gz you should get it.

[Psi]

Been hitting a few weird things, though how much of this is down to it being my choice of options and WinCE I don't know...

- turning on prompt for pick up has only worked when I have had a Low HP warning at the same time, otherwise it just picks it up anyway.
- with autopickup off, it doesn't tell me what I am standing on when I step on an object like it does in FA.
- quick messages is a bit odd - can't quite work it out, but if I turn it off I can't just use direction keys etc to clear prompts like I would in FA (obviously wouldn't matter if I had a keyboard...)
- the Panel adjustment setting is not saved across reloads. I have to reset it each time.
- Some of the tiles are not defined. Also beastmasters use Wormtongue's tile so I hope I'm not going to get caught out later! Jackals use Maggot's dogs tiles too which is a bit confusing (I know that is inherited from FA where they don't exist - but it might confuse some people!).
- the phial is using a blue lamp tile (again from FA)
- The map doesn't remember trees in a permalit room
- recall doesn't reset depth - not sure if it should, but it is a little galling in a comp where the character is not really strong enough for his recall depth.

[Nick]

Been hitting a few weird things, though how much of this is down to it being my choice of options and WinCE I don't know...

Have you downloaded the latest compile? It went up yesterday.

- turning on prompt for pick up has only worked when I have had a Low HP warning at the same time, otherwise it just picks it up anyway.
- with autopickup off, it doesn't tell me what I am standing on when I step on an object like it does in FA.

Yeah, O's pickup is a bit different from FA's, and I've missed some subtlety somewhere.

- quick messages is a bit odd - can't quite work it out, but if I turn it off I can't just use direction keys etc to clear prompts like I would in FA (obviously wouldn't matter if I had a keyboard...)

Works fine for me (although I just got badly hurt by some earth hounds testing it...)

- the Panel adjustment setting is not saved across reloads. I have to reset it each time.

Oops. Still, nice to know someone knows it exists.

- Some of the tiles are not defined. Also beastmasters use Wormtongue's tile so I hope I'm not going to get caught out later! Jackals use Maggot's dogs tiles too which is a bit confusing (I know that is inherited from FA where they don't exist - but it might confuse some people!).

Looks like a job for someone who cares

- the phial is using a blue lamp tile (again from FA)

Oops again.

- The map doesn't remember trees in a permalit room

There was a magic mapping issue which is only just fixed - this could be related. I've certainly not seen anything wrong with trees.

- recall doesn't reset depth - not sure if it should, but it is a little galling in a comp where the character is not really strong enough for his recall depth.

Just not a feature in O. Consensus seems to favour walking down the stairs

[Bandobras]

A couple of minor issues (excuse me if already reported):

* "merge inscriptions when staking" is shown twice in the options list
*
~/waste/aaa/oangband110u$ src/oangband -mx11
src/oangband: Couldn't load the requested font. (8x16x)

however, when I set

export ANGBAND_X11_FONT_0=-angband-16x16x-demibold-r-normal--16-120-96-96-c-160-
iso8859-1

it runs flawlessly (the game was installed with './configure' and 'make' but no 'make install', Linux). Moreover, then x11-settings.prf is created and the game runs fine even without setting the font manually. With SDL it runs fine.

* neither with 16x16x not with the default 8x16x can I get the grey dots for already seen terrain and for unlight lighted terrain in x11. I just get black tiles. Actually also perma-lit rooms are all black. With SDL and GCU it runs fine.

[Nick]

* "merge inscriptions when staking" is shown twice in the options list

Thanks - that will free up some room on that page

~/waste/aaa/oangband110u$ src/oangband -mx11
src/oangband: Couldn't load the requested font. (8x16x)

however, when I set

export ANGBAND_X11_FONT_0=-angband-16x16x-demibold-r-normal--16-120-96-96-c-160-
iso8859-1

it runs flawlessly (the game was installed with './configure' and 'make' but no 'make install', Linux). Moreover, then x11-settings.prf is created and the game runs fine even without setting the font manually. With SDL it runs fine.

Yeah, I knew there was some weirdness with the x11 port, but haven't been able to track it down. At least you've given me a workaround.

* neither with 16x16x not with the default 8x16x can I get the grey dots for already seen terrain and for unlight lighted terrain in x11. I just get black tiles. Actually also perma-lit rooms are all black. With SDL and GCU it runs fine.

OK, that one's a visuals thing - you just need to comment out the lines for open floor and invisible trap in lib/pref/font-x11.prf.

[Bandobras]

Tyou just need to comment out the lines for open floor and invisible trap in lib/pref/font-x11.prf.

Oh, thanks, it works great now!

[Donald Jonker]

Bug in XP: when dumping char to file crashes the game, but dumps successfully.

EDIT: it also fails to reset the save file if you've died. If you dump a live character, you revert to the last save.

[Nick]

Bug in XP: when dumping char to file crashes the game, but dumps successfully.

EDIT: it also fails to reset the save file if you've died. If you dump a live character, you revert to the last save.

Ow. that's horrible. Workaround, I guess, is to save before dumping, but I'll have to chase that.

[Donald Jonker]

FYI: same behavior (dump crash) is in FA035 as well.

[Psi]

I'm seeing some strange things in pathfinding (which I haven't noticed in FA). Every so often the @ tries to walk through a wall... it turns out that whenever he does that, there is a secret door there. It seems the pathfinding alogorithm must know a little more about the underlying map than it should.

Also the @ often doesn't head where I'd expect when I tap the screen - maybe it is because I usually have some form of mapping before I enter the dungeon in FA.

You can ignore the vanishing trees I mentioned earlier - I think that was due to forgetting to turn off one of the lighting options when using tiles.

Si

[Seany C]

Two contrasting points:

1) Strangely, I'm using XP and can make char dumps and save chars without any problems - so it doesn't seem to be a universal problem for XP systems.

2) Random minor niggle - the 'monster list' window doesn't update instantly when you move out of monster detection range (teleporting or taking the stairs)...

This competition is making me realise just how long it is since I played a 'band with one dungeon and no wilderness - apart from an hour or two on Quick/NPP, it's probably been 8 or 9 years now...

[Psi]

I'm seeing some strange things in pathfinding (which I haven't noticed in FA). Every so often the @ tries to walk through a wall... it turns out that whenever he does that, there is a secret door there. It seems the pathfinding alogorithm must know a little more about the underlying map than it should.

Not sure if it will help or not, but there is actually a different message if you try and walk through a secret door as opposed to a wall! I wonder if that was intentional? It means you don't need to search for secret doors in O - you could just try and walk into all the walls... one message says the wall is in the way and the other says blocking the way.

[Nick]

Every so often the @ tries to walk through a wall... it turns out that whenever he does that, there is a secret door there. It seems the pathfinding alogorithm must know a little more about the underlying map than it should.

Yes, that's a bug - presumably in FA too.

Also the @ often doesn't head where I'd expect when I tap the screen - maybe it is because I usually have some form of mapping before I enter the dungeon in FA.

Not sure about this one - I'll have to test a bit.

Not sure if it will help or not, but there is actually a different message if you try and walk through a secret door as opposed to a wall! I wonder if that was intentional? It means you don't need to search for secret doors in O - you could just try and walk into all the walls... one message says the wall is in the way and the other says blocking the way.

This is a consequence of the pathfind bug, I think. It doesn't happen (as far as I can see) when you walk into a secret door using the arrows, only with the mouse, and even then not if you tap on the door itself. If you tap on a square which isn't adjacent, the pathfinding algorithm is invoked; this bypasses the initial check for a wall (which gives the "wall in the way" message), and goes through to actually trying to move you. Once the bug is fixed, you will probably not get a message at all - the algorithm will either find a path and move you there, or fail and not try the secret door.

[Nick]

2) Random minor niggle - the 'monster list' window doesn't update instantly when you move out of monster detection range (teleporting or taking the stairs)...

Yes, window updating is less than perfect all round - it's kind of an unsexy development task...