[Announce] FrogComposband 7.0.nougat released

[Pete Mack]

It was ages ago, back in the prehistoric Posband era. Dragons had mediocre endgame melee (though it was pretty strong up until midgame), and their breath attacks used tons of mana and didn't do a lot of damage. On further thought, It is very likely they have been rebalanced since then.

I find that hard to understand, are you saying that you played a level 30 dragon and it was weak

[wobbly]

Their breathe damage is still low though infinitely spamable (cast from hps). When you look at a win a fully kitted end game dragon is quite strong. It's the pt where humanoid warriors find their 1st good weapon that they suffer. They have to wait longer and worker harder to match the damage spike. As a bonus they have a harder time finding resists. I'm not sure I've actually tried attack realm. There's a good chance they have it better. Also apparently the steel dragon is OP.

[CyclopsSlayer]

LOL I may have to try a Steel Dragon, no breath, enhanced melee and AC... Seems nice.

[Pete Mack]

You lose nothing to give up breath attacks. They work on mobs, sure. But mobs are very much a secondary issue.

[CyclopsSlayer]

Dragon Monsters, and I assume other creatures without a 'feet' slot, receive a pair of Hard Leath Botts of Levitation for the Sewer quest.

[Derakon]

For titan monster characters it says "Their attacks often confuse their foes", I looked at the code and couldn't see that

It's probably derived from the titans in the monster data file, whose melee attacks confuse.

[Bostock]

Levitation isn't vital, but it's relevant. For example, you can levitate over the line of pits between the treerows; these are among the few easily accessible bottlenecks on the level (until something blows up the trees, at least).

Edit - Just to round things out here: a distance attack is useful for a number of reasons. One reason is that it helps to minimize the time between when things wake up and when they die. That in turns helps to keep things from going out of control.

Stealth is definitely extremely useful, agreed, although it's not essential (you can just be ridiculously buff instead).

rChaos is also extremely nice to have there.

[wobbly]

Just to add to Bostock, if you aren't finding distance attacks useful it's probably because you're playing something that's brutal in close. I certainly wouldn't try and do that with a mage. So in a way the hints a bit silly, if you're playing melee your best of melee-ing , if you're a ranged attacker you're going to ranged attack. If you're a bit of both, I mean this is still the same right? You use both like you always do. That said I do often use a fair bit of ranged attack in there and find the advice reasonable. Agree that stealth is better. That's every quest, though & generally you always pack as much stealth as a build allows.

[Sideways]

Distance attacks are really nice to have for the Jurts in particular, because you can't rely on the Jurts staying within melee range, and you usually want them dead as soon as possible. And while levitation isn't necessary, it's definitely convenient - pretty much the only quest where levitation makes a difference. Stealth is good, yes, but like wobbly said, stealth is good in all quests so it goes without saying.

[Firons2]

Changing the default settings

Hello. I was wondering if it would be possible to change the settings so they are the same with each character and not reset to the defaults every time?

[Gwarl]

Use the same savefile instead of starting a new one for each character.

This is the case for all versions of angband but it's not at all intuitive or clear from the windows interface.

[CyclopsSlayer]

Use the same savefile instead of starting a new one for each character.

This is the case for all versions of angband but it's not at all intuitive or clear from the windows interface.

You used to be able to save/load a separate character pref settings file back in NPP/Zang and even Vanilla. That ability got lost somewhere along the way

[Sideways]

It's stil possible to manually edit pref-opt.prf.

Using the same savefile repeatedly is simpler (usually), but it means later characters inherit their ancestors' monster lore and ego/artifact flag memory; though I'm adding an option to forget flag lore between characters.

[Pete Mack]

Ugh. Why would anyone want to forget monster lore? That is an option that will never be used. Note that V now has cross-save file monster lore, and not one complaint has been made.

[Sideways]

Ugh. Why would anyone want to forget monster lore? That is an option that will never be used. Note that V now has cross-save file monster lore, and not one complaint has been made.

The option only wipes item lore, not monster lore, sorry if I was unclear.