[Un] Unangband 0.6.2-gold released

[lenochware]

Bug?

I have problem with Magical Bag of Scrying (?). I pick it up automatically always when I go over it, and if I go over - for example - Scroll of Identify with MBoS, it is picked up automatically and added into bag. It seems weird to me, and it is annoying - I must everytime when I get MBoS by mistake, drop all things collected in it, drop empty bag and get things again.
Other magical bags seems work ok (but I don't use them).

Also age of my character seems little weird. This is my old character: http://lenochware.ic.cz/age.gif
My current character (also maia istari) has age 6.

[Arralen]

I have problem with Magical Bag of Scrying (?). I pick it up automatically always when I go over it, and if I go over - for example - Scroll of Identify with MBoS, it is picked up automatically and added into bag. It seems weird to me, and it is annoying - I must everytime when I get MBoS by mistake, drop all things collected in it, drop empty bag and get things again.
Other magical bags seems work ok (but I don't use them).

Working as designed, as far as I know: a ?oID is a scroll of scrying, somehow, so where(else) should it go if you have that bag in your inventory?

Also age of my character seems little weird. This is my old character: http://lenochware.ic.cz/age.gif
My current character (also maia istari) has age 6.

You know what a maiar is, and an instari especially?

http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/m/maiar.html

I must admit, though, that either 13k or 1-2 digit years should be chosen for all of them - the first the time the span since the spirit entered the world, and the 2nd the time since it arrived from the west in the form of an old wizard .. consistency is the key to the dispension of disbelieve

[Arralen]

This is based on 0.6.2-beta 2 again (because I still cannot play the latest version), but I don't think anything has changed since:

"Ring of Acid"
"It does x3 damage from acid" .. I'm fighting bare-handed with speciality (Race High-Elf, Class Warrior Mage, Style Unarmed) but I see no hint of acid damage ?!

Blinding
What does blinding monsters do (or what is it supposed to do?)

Enchant weapon / armor
What are the thresholds for enchanting armors/weapons? How many arrows can be enchanted at once? Is it possible to enchant ego items?

[Bandobras]

Other magical bags seems work ok (but I don't use them).

How exactly the other bags differ from this one? Otherwise, as Arralen says. The idea is bags are so good that nobody will try to avoid them (but you can, if you change pickup options or inscribe the bags with, IIRC '=i' and turn on the option that auto-inscribes things once inscribed by you). So I wonder why don't you like bags --- role playing or bad UI or what?

My current character (also maia istari) has age 6.

A very wierd bug. Which version? Average age for Maias is 10000. There is a chance of overflow due to aging, but only after years of real-life playing. Was it a borg, by chance?

[Bandobras]

I may be wrong with the following, code-divers please correct me:

"Ring of Acid"
"It does x3 damage from acid" .. I'm fighting bare-handed with speciality (Race High-Elf, Class Warrior Mage, Style Unarmed) but I see no hint of acid damage ?!

This one is supposed to work for bows and weapons as well, probably even when not activated. I guess the one worn on the right hand only. Normal V rules, so only base damage multiplied. Base damage is the one of the gloves and boots you wear (hand hits firs, foot second, hand, foot, etc. except when charging, which is only by kicking). Bare hands and feet are 1d1 as in V.

Blinding
What does blinding monsters do (or what is it supposed to do?)

Monsters do not cast direct magical attack spells or no spells other than healing and even this twice as rarely, depending on which piece of code you believe in. Also many minor things, like not trying to eat off the floor, AC - 10, less accuracy, etc.

Enchant weapon / armor
What are the thresholds for enchanting armors/weapons? How many arrows can be enchanted at once? Is it possible to enchant ego items?

I think the only things changed from V are that instead of the soft limit of 10 you get base AC for armour and dice*sides for weapon damage. I don't remember if arrow dice are taken into account, I suppose not.

Any suggestions for in-game help, either auto-generated or hand-written?

[andrewdoull]

Hi there!

I've put a Windows prerelease of gold2 on Berlios at

http://prdownload.berlios.de/unangband/062-prerelease-gold2.zip

The blurb:

This is an unofficial prerelease of Unangband 0.6.2-gold2. Please test it, while we try to find time to fix a pair of remaining bugs and release it officially.

Which 2 bugs are they?

I apologize for a lack of changelog here. Lots of changes. The two most important kinds are fixes to some various crashes and to tripled (or more) damage from player magic. Please save often. Savefile compatible (took me a lot of effort).

P.S. A changelog of a kind is at the SVN page:

http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/unangband/?op=log&rev=0&sc=0&isdir=1

P.P.S. Linux users, BSD users and other noble people: this is based on today's SVN under ungband/ungband/. Help yourselves.

Again - due to my (lack of) understanding of SVN...

I should point out that due to my almost complete lack of time for Unangband, Bandobras has pretty much taken over maintaining Unangband at the moment... thanks again.

Andrew

[Bandobras]

Which 2 bugs are they?

Pssst! It's the 4 bugs marked deep red over at Berlios, plus the Arralen Windows crashes.

I should point out that due to my almost complete lack of time for Unangband, Bandobras has pretty much taken over maintaining Unangband at the moment... thanks again.

You are welcome. *bends under the enormous burden put on his shoulders*

Unfortunately my time for Unangband is as unpredictable as yours. In particular I promised 3 times this year that I won't dabble in Unangband in the near future and every time I quickly find myself churning out patches again (this time it's an unpredictable cold).

[andrewdoull]

Pssst! It's the 4 bugs marked deep red over at Berlios, plus the Arralen Windows crashes.

Which means I have to either get a Windows XP VM up and running with a mingw debug environment - or figure out why mingw debugging doesn't run on Vista...


Ah well.

[Arralen]

Which means I have to either get a Windows XP VM up and running with a mingw debug environment - or figure out why mingw debugging doesn't run on Vista...

Maybe I should mention (again) that I do not run either XP or Vista but W2k .. and I've installed WinDbg from M$ in the meanwhile, but it has trouble reading the symbols from the unangband.exe ..

[andrewdoull]

Maybe I should mention (again) that I do not run either XP or Vista but W2k .. and I've installed WinDbg from M$ in the meanwhile, but it has trouble reading the symbols from the unangband.exe ..

I'm sure we can roll up a debug build for you.

Andrew

[manchu]

broken savefile

Just tried to run a character that came back with a broken savefile message.
Too many (64) ecology entries!
It then attempts to fix the problem which fails and I get a pop up message that says broken savefile. Should I send in the file and if so to what location?

[Bandobras]

Just tried to run a character that came back with a broken savefile message.
Too many (64) ecology entries!

On no. Another case... It's already reported at

https://developer.berlios.de/bugs/?func=detailbug&bug_id=13577&group_id=331

but I hoped it was since fixed by accident. I really can't nail it. I'll be adding auto-save before entering dungeon for gold2, so both recovering from such corruptions and debugging will be easier.

It then attempts to fix the problem which fails and I get a pop up message that says broken savefile.

It would be a great help and perhaps I'd be able to fix the savefile. I guess no hope of a savefile just before the curruption? Anyways, could you tell me what did the dungeon level look like and any other forensic evidence you may have gathered? Thanks.

Should I send in the file and if so to what location?

Anywhere on the Web would be oK. E.g. in
ftp://ftp.berlios.de/incoming

Or I may send you my email address via forum private message.

P.S. One more thing: did you play the official 0.6.2-gold or of the two unofficial prereleases of 0.6.2-gold2? Perhaps the bug is fixed, after all, which is why I can't reproduce it...

[Bandobras]

Second prerelease of a second ultimate release of Unangband 0.6.2 is out!

This is the second and probably last unofficial prerelease of Unangband 0.6.2-gold2. Almost all significant bugs are fixed (apologies to Arralen for ignoring him again), but consequently, the balance is probably broken (e.g. monsters now correctly fail to cast spells, which makes low level casters wimpy) and the changes are untested. Please check the balance and try to nail down any remaining crash and corruption bugs, with the help of backup savefiles that are now created before (almost) every dungeon generation. Regardless of the backup savefiles, please save often. Savefile are, and will, remain compatible with gold.

Compiled from current SVN/unangband/unangband. Wingdows download at:

http://prdownload.berlios.de/unangband/unangband-0.6.2.gold2.pre2-windows.zip

Proposed codename for gold2: "Not all that glitters is gold".

[lenochware]

Problem is not that ?oID go into the bag, but that I picked up bag automatically, when I go over it. I haven't any auto pickup option - so why?
I just go over pile of items and -bing- I had MBoS in my inventory. And moreover, when I go over scroll of treasure detection, lying on the ground, with bag in my inventory, it was automatically picked up too. I don't want scroll of treasure detection!

Bag of another type was not picked up automatically.

I have problem also that I don't know which items can bag store. Maybe I overlook this information somewhere... It seems that there is many types of bags -- I would like bag for books, bag for all scrolls, but bag for only some types of scrolls seems weird to me.

Also personally I don't like having thousand things in inventory as it is in some RPG games... I think that it is part of game strategy choose which things have for my journey to dungeon....

[lenochware]

Bandobras: The difference is that another bag was not auto-picked. For another things see my reply to Arralen.
Now I am using only Bag of Maps in my home in town (it is clear even for me which things can be stored in this bag .
btw. sometimes Bag of Scrying just disappears when I drop it.

btw2. autocollecting things from inventory into the bag seems little confusing to me. What about bags working similary to quiver? i.e. wear bag first, and next use wear/takeoff for adding removing items from bag...? But maybe its better as it is now, I am not sure...

It is version gold2 (WinXP). No, it is normal character.