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  • Satyr
    Scout
    • Apr 2007
    • 36

    #91
    One quick bug report I haven't seen posted allready (latest 0.3.0 windows-precompiled on XP) : I just equipped a ring of resist cold and my cold resistance dropped to -36 % (from 0). I got it at the magic store for a 50% discount; an amulet of resist acid I bought at the same time (with the same discount) seems to work fine.

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    • Nick
      Vanilla maintainer
      • Apr 2007
      • 9633

      #92
      Originally posted by Satyr
      One quick bug report I haven't seen posted allready (latest 0.3.0 windows-precompiled on XP) : I just equipped a ring of resist cold and my cold resistance dropped to -36 % (from 0). I got it at the magic store for a 50% discount; an amulet of resist acid I bought at the same time (with the same discount) seems to work fine.
      Yes, that probably counts as a bug. These items can have either positive or negative resistance, but shops don't distinguish - so it pays to look before you buy. The good news is you can sell it back to the shop
      One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
      In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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      • AnonymousHero
        Veteran
        • Jun 2007
        • 1393

        #93
        Minor bug: It seems you can fire arrows normally even when confused. Very handy, but it feels a bit like cheating .

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        • Nick
          Vanilla maintainer
          • Apr 2007
          • 9633

          #94
          Originally posted by AnonymousHero
          Minor bug: It seems you can fire arrows normally even when confused. Very handy, but it feels a bit like cheating .
          This appears in some other variants too - confusion doesn't kick in when you already have a target.
          One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
          In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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          • Arralen
            Swordsman
            • May 2007
            • 309

            #95
            Originally posted by Nick
            The good news is you can sell it back to the shop

            Whhoooo .. FAangband is the first rougelike where you get a refund !!


            If that only where true as well for staves, wands and artefacts which are not activating in critical situations, or scrolls that burn up all to easy, or potions which shatter without any real cause (their bottle must have been defective ) ...
            No, I don't have a clue 'bout C, and I'm not starting my own variant.
            Never. Ever.

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            • Psi
              Knight
              • Apr 2007
              • 870

              #96
              Originally posted by Nick
              There is a known issue where the windows port registers a crash on closing the game - I haven't been able to work out why, but the only obvious effect is to pop up an error window. The game still saves fine. I suspect it's a font issue of some sort, and I'm inclined to blame Vista...
              Wish I'd checked here earlier Having got my first Vista laptop just before Christmas I'd been googling trying to find out why FAA crashed on exiting. Glad its not my new kit that has the problem. Any closer to discovering why, Nick?

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              • Nick
                Vanilla maintainer
                • Apr 2007
                • 9633

                #97
                Originally posted by Psi
                Wish I'd checked here earlier Having got my first Vista laptop just before Christmas I'd been googling trying to find out why FAA crashed on exiting. Glad its not my new kit that has the problem. Any closer to discovering why, Nick?
                'Fraid not. I spent some time trying to track it down around the time I released this version, but "maybe a font thing" was about as close as I got. Other variants have had issues with freeing fonts in Windows before; also, I imported a lot of low level code from vanilla at a time when it was changing fairly rapidly, so some subtleties probably got overlooked.

                I'll probably do another code update before releasing 0.3.1 (if I understand properly V3.1.0 should be out soon, and so I'll try and sync with that), and with luck the problem will go away then. It doesn't seem to have any bad effect apart from bringing up a dialog, and if you're running Vista you'll be used to that

                I'll be interested to hear your opinions on gameplay changes, too.
                One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                • Psi
                  Knight
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 870

                  #98
                  Originally posted by Nick
                  I'll be interested to hear your opinions on gameplay changes, too.
                  I'm still getting used to a new keyboard... first char died this morning trying to take the stairs he was standing on but ended up running towards a sabre-toothed tiger... I guess I hit '.' followed by an up arrow or something.

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                  • Seany C
                    Swordsman
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 283

                    #99
                    Hmm, you're not going to like this but 0.3.0 seems to be crashing on Windows XP too. I fired it up on my parents' PC over the holidays and the first game crashed almost immediately on leaving Ossiriand to the west (I think one keypress - probably a '4' after moving to the new area).

                    It was a new char roll-up (Longbeard Necro, CL12ish, no ego-equipment yet) so I'm not sure what would have caused the crash. If I reproduce anything similar, I'll try to get a dump of the techie details if that helps...

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                    • Seany C
                      Swordsman
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 283

                      Nick - gameplay change $0.02:

                      Extra damage dice for Druids - nice, makes them playable without overpowering them.

                      Resists - interesting but tricky - it could just be a couple of unlucky chars but getting the four base resists seem a lot tougher than it was. This probably impacts more on the classes without resist spells. On the upside, there's a better chance of getting random high resists than before...

                      UI - it does take a long time to get used to the new store keys - I still press 'p' and 's' by default - I'm sure that I'll eventually get used to it, mind...

                      One other very minor buglet, now that I think of it - I never noticed before using a PC with the sound locked on but a lot more supposedly illegal actions set off the warning beep in 0.3.0 than in 0.2.3. For example, each keypress to scroll the world map seems to set off that beep on XP...

                      Nevertheless, onwards and upwards. Ta for all the work on FAA as always.

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                      • Nick
                        Vanilla maintainer
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9633

                        Originally posted by Seany C
                        Hmm, you're not going to like this but 0.3.0 seems to be crashing on Windows XP too. I fired it up on my parents' PC over the holidays and the first game crashed almost immediately on leaving Ossiriand to the west (I think one keypress - probably a '4' after moving to the new area).

                        It was a new char roll-up (Longbeard Necro, CL12ish, no ego-equipment yet) so I'm not sure what would have caused the crash. If I reproduce anything similar, I'll try to get a dump of the techie details if that helps...
                        Yeah, a savefile would help. The only bug I know of that caused in-game crashes was the notes bug, and that should only be a problem if you downloaded in the first couple of days after the release - it was fixed after that. So this might be something new
                        One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                        In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                        • Nick
                          Vanilla maintainer
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9633

                          Originally posted by Seany C
                          Extra damage dice for Druids - nice, makes them playable without overpowering them.
                          Good, that was the plan.

                          Resists - interesting but tricky - it could just be a couple of unlucky chars but getting the four base resists seem a lot tougher than it was. This probably impacts more on the classes without resist spells. On the upside, there's a better chance of getting random high resists than before...
                          I think this is about according to plan too. It was a bit too easy before to get multiple low resists - note that Elvenkind and Doriath still get all four. I'm not sure how that's going to play closer to the end of the game, though.

                          UI - it does take a long time to get used to the new store keys - I still press 'p' and 's' by default - I'm sure that I'll eventually get used to it, mind...
                          I'm still thinking about stores. I didn't go all the way to the V interface, and I'm not sure that I want to, so you might get you 'p' and 's' back yet.

                          One other very minor buglet, now that I think of it - I never noticed before using a PC with the sound locked on but a lot more supposedly illegal actions set off the warning beep in 0.3.0 than in 0.2.3. For example, each keypress to scroll the world map seems to set off that beep on XP...
                          And escaping out of the 'C' screen? I've noticed some weirdness there, but I'm playing only in Linux at the moment, and without sound. I'm just leaving this buggy version out for a while so people will be grateful when the next one is bug free

                          Thanks for the feedback.
                          One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                          In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                          • Psi
                            Knight
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 870

                            Originally posted by Nick
                            ...so people will be grateful when the next one is bug free
                            That is quite a promise to live up to!

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                            • Psi
                              Knight
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 870

                              Now I'm not sure if I'm getting confused with the old mouse inventory screen, but when I listed my inventory it used to show me how many slots were used up by my quiver and how much ammo was in each slot. This was really useful to know how much more I could put in my quiver without losing a slot or how much ammo I had to drop to free a slot. It doesn't tell me any of this when I enter 'i' in v030 at least.

                              Si

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                              • Nick
                                Vanilla maintainer
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 9633

                                Originally posted by Psi
                                Now I'm not sure if I'm getting confused with the old mouse inventory screen, but when I listed my inventory it used to show me how many slots were used up by my quiver and how much ammo was in each slot. This was really useful to know how much more I could put in my quiver without losing a slot or how much ammo I had to drop to free a slot. It doesn't tell me any of this when I enter 'i' in v030 at least.
                                Yes, quite correct, and it annoys me too. I decided to just use the mouse inventory screen instead of having two, but forgot about the ammo thing. It will be back in some form next version.
                                One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                                In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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