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  • buzzkill
    Prophet
    • May 2008
    • 2939

    The manes is held in stasis.

    I'm playing a low level green-elf necromancer with no special equipment (that I know of), and the unlight specialty. I hit the manes, and received the message "The manes is held in stasis.", which effectively paralyzed him for a few turns allowing me to run away.

    Is this something new for necromancers?
    www.mediafire.com/buzzkill - Get your 32x32 tiles here. UT32 now compatible Ironband and Quickband 9/6/2012.
    My banding life on Buzzkill's ladder.

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    • Nick
      Vanilla maintainer
      • Apr 2007
      • 9633

      Originally posted by buzzkill
      I'm playing a low level green-elf necromancer with no special equipment (that I know of), and the unlight specialty. I hit the manes, and received the message "The manes is held in stasis.", which effectively paralyzed him for a few turns allowing me to run away.
      Is your weapon identified? There are some weapons which would do this...
      One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
      In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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      • buzzkill
        Prophet
        • May 2008
        • 2939

        Well, no, not yet. I'm almost embarrassed to say that it's a broken sword (1d2) {good}. It doesn't do very much damage, I kinda figured it was of the simple +th/+dam variety. I was really just toting it around to sell eventually.
        www.mediafire.com/buzzkill - Get your 32x32 tiles here. UT32 now compatible Ironband and Quickband 9/6/2012.
        My banding life on Buzzkill's ladder.

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        • Nick
          Vanilla maintainer
          • Apr 2007
          • 9633

          Originally posted by buzzkill
          Well, no, not yet. I'm almost embarrassed to say that it's a broken sword (1d2) {good}. It doesn't do very much damage, I kinda figured it was of the simple +th/+dam variety. I was really just toting it around to sell eventually.
          I would suggest IDing it
          One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
          In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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          • buzzkill
            Prophet
            • May 2008
            • 2939

            It's 'of Chaos', +14,+8, 2 blows, 3 per blow. I can't really justify using it since my 'of Shocking' does 5 times the damage. Worse yet, I can't sell it either.
            www.mediafire.com/buzzkill - Get your 32x32 tiles here. UT32 now compatible Ironband and Quickband 9/6/2012.
            My banding life on Buzzkill's ladder.

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            • Nick
              Vanilla maintainer
              • Apr 2007
              • 9633

              Originally posted by buzzkill
              It's 'of Chaos', +14,+8, 2 blows, 3 per blow. I can't really justify using it since my 'of Shocking' does 5 times the damage. Worse yet, I can't sell it either.
              As a necro, you probably don't want to melee much anyway. That would leave you with the choice of Chaos for the occasional good effect in desperate circumstances, or Shocking for the RElec.
              One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
              In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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              • Derakon
                Prophet
                • Dec 2009
                • 9022

                Does "of Chaos" provide chaos resistance? If so, does rChaos provide rConf in FAAngband?

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                • Nick
                  Vanilla maintainer
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9633

                  Originally posted by Derakon
                  Does "of Chaos" provide chaos resistance?
                  Yes.

                  If so, does rChaos provide rConf in FAAngband?
                  No, but RConf stops you from getting confused by Chaos attacks if that's any consolation.
                  One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                  In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                  • Arralen
                    Swordsman
                    • May 2007
                    • 309

                    ... "of Chaos" doesn't seem to work properly on players weapons anyway. I think I mentioned that before, but only had tried on townspoeple which rather died than triggered any weapons effects (shouldn't those be triggered before the damage calculation?!) In the meanwhile, I had about 40 hits on non-townspeople and only noticed 1 "teleport other" (at least, the orc vanished without a trace and, sadly, without any message as well) ...
                    No, I don't have a clue 'bout C, and I'm not starting my own variant.
                    Never. Ever.

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                    • Nick
                      Vanilla maintainer
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9633

                      Originally posted by Arralen
                      ... "of Chaos" doesn't seem to work properly on players weapons anyway. I think I mentioned that before, but only had tried on townspoeple which rather died than triggered any weapons effects (shouldn't those be triggered before the damage calculation?!) In the meanwhile, I had about 40 hits on non-townspeople and only noticed 1 "teleport other" (at least, the orc vanished without a trace and, sadly, without any message as well) ...
                      It seemed to make more sense to me to trigger after each blow. Also, some effects will fail against some monsters, and there is a 1 in 10 chance of an effect being attempted. And I wanted it to have a bit of scarcity value
                      One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                      In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                      • buzzkill
                        Prophet
                        • May 2008
                        • 2939

                        Originally posted by Nick
                        It seemed to make more sense to me to trigger after each blow. Also, some effects will fail against some monsters, and there is a 1 in 10 chance of an effect being attempted. And I wanted it to have a bit of scarcity value
                        I hadn't played with it, or any other chaos weapon, enough to form a solid informed opinion, but without a brand multiplier, a 1 in 10 chance of producing a chaotic effect seems pretty weak unless weapon of chaos are meant to be very early game weapons. A standard branded weapon would produce consistently higher damage output would seem better in almost any situation. IM(admittedly uninformed)O, of chaos, roughly equates to a wand of wonder with a 90% failure rate.
                        www.mediafire.com/buzzkill - Get your 32x32 tiles here. UT32 now compatible Ironband and Quickband 9/6/2012.
                        My banding life on Buzzkill's ladder.

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                        • Derakon
                          Prophet
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 9022

                          If it went off with every blow then it'd be ridiculous, though -- you'd be continually surrounded by earthquakes, and confused or polymorphed monsters (assuming FA chaotic weapons are anything like Z chaotic weapons). The weapons definitely need to not trigger every hit. Maybe 1 in 10 is too infrequent; I haven't played with them so I wouldn't know. But I'm pretty well certain that 1 in 5 would be too often.

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                          • Nick
                            Vanilla maintainer
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 9633

                            Originally posted by buzzkill
                            A standard branded weapon would produce consistently higher damage output would seem better in almost any situation. IM(admittedly uninformed)O, of chaos, roughly equates to a wand of wonder with a 90% failure rate.
                            They're meant to be situationally useful. They're unusually light (so more blows), and give RChaos - sometimes that will be what you need.
                            One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                            In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                            • LostTemplar
                              Knight
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 670

                              Is it a bug, or is it intended, that regeneration ability gives three times more then normal mana regen ?
                              /* Regeneration ability. A lesser effect on mana in Oangband. */
                              if (p_ptr->regenerate)
                              {
                              regen_amount = regen_amount * 2;
                              mana_regen_amount = 3 * regen_amount / 2;
                              }
                              so base regen value is dobled, and then multiplyed by 3/2.
                              maybe just coment is wrong.

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                              • Nick
                                Vanilla maintainer
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 9633

                                Originally posted by LostTemplar
                                Is it a bug, or is it intended, that regeneration ability gives three times more then normal mana regen ?

                                so base regen value is dobled, and then multiplyed by 3/2.
                                maybe just coment is wrong.
                                Neat - I think that is technically a bug; certainly it's been there since Oangband 0.7.0. I haven't ever thought that mana regen is too fast, so I don't think I'll change anything.
                                One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                                In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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