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  • thapper
    Adept
    • Aug 2008
    • 168

    #16
    I started playing a bit this morning and I got the post-quit-"crash" mentioned above using your windows-build on Vista (but only once).

    I also noticed that shops accept to buy stuff pseudo-ed as dubious, is that intended?

    I'm trying out a mage and at least for the start (I'm just on level 10) the activation on the mage-staff is making it very easy but I guess that will change when I'm not restoring all mana with each activation. The activation also basically gives you endless fire bolt (or whatever the first spell is, I don't remember yet) but that will also only be useful as long as the monsters actually die from a few fire-bolts. I'm excited to see what you did to the mage spells later on...

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    • Seany C
      Swordsman
      • Apr 2007
      • 283

      #17
      Hurrah - well done, Nick: looking forward to seeing the new ideas. Can I second the 'FAA Mage for C74' idea?

      PS Well done on the 4th Test, *grumble*, *whinge*. That I'm from near Headlingley originally just adds insult to innings defeat injury...

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      • Nick
        Vanilla maintainer
        • Apr 2007
        • 9633

        #18
        Originally posted by thapper
        I started playing a bit this morning and I got the post-quit-"crash" mentioned above using your windows-build on Vista (but only once).
        Hmm. I'll have to try and track that one down at some point.

        I also noticed that shops accept to buy stuff pseudo-ed as dubious, is that intended?
        Yes. Dubious means they have some negative qualities - but they may have positive ones that outweigh the negative. If you are playing a full caster, you really want to ID stuff before selling it - very nice gear can be dubious under weak pseudo.

        I'm trying out a mage and at least for the start (I'm just on level 10) the activation on the mage-staff is making it very easy but I guess that will change when I'm not restoring all mana with each activation. The activation also basically gives you endless fire bolt (or whatever the first spell is, I don't remember yet) but that will also only be useful as long as the monsters actually die from a few fire-bolts. I'm excited to see what you did to the mage spells later on...
        Yes, that was what was intended from the activation - it should become irrelevant later. I certainly had fun designing the later spells
        One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
        In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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        • Nick
          Vanilla maintainer
          • Apr 2007
          • 9633

          #19
          Originally posted by Seany C
          Hurrah - well done, Nick: looking forward to seeing the new ideas. Can I second the 'FAA Mage for C74' idea?
          Well, I guess I can give way under the weight of popular opinion...

          PS Well done on the 4th Test, *grumble*, *whinge*. That I'm from near Headlingley originally just adds insult to innings defeat injury...
          Pardon?

          The Oval should be fun
          One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
          In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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          • Seany C
            Swordsman
            • Apr 2007
            • 283

            #20
            Heh, I was trying to find a smaller font than 'size 1', y'know.
            The Oval will be horrible - we're talking about bringing Mark Ramprekash back, which would be along the lines of Oz recalling Michael Slater...

            Actually, I'm half-tempted to write an edit file to turn FAA into AshesBand - although it would have to be customisable to have either Ponting or Strauss as the big P (with Geoffrey Boycott/ Chappelli as the Complainer, Graeme Swann as Pongo the Devious...)... I wonder if Billy Birmingham ever 'banded?

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            • Seany C
              Swordsman
              • Apr 2007
              • 283

              #21
              And the griping begins : is there any simple way to get ### for walls (on Windows XP)? I'll try nerfing the pref files...

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              • Seany C
                Swordsman
                • Apr 2007
                • 283

                #22
                Ah, that worked.

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                • thapper
                  Adept
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 168

                  #23
                  Just a quick question, what does "dam 5 + 13" on the frost beam spell for the mage means (I assume it doesn't mean damage 18)?

                  Oh, and another one, is the curse on ring of teleportation, "random" now or is it still just a sticky curse?

                  And, last but not least, an old and improved bug. When I try to fire things out of my quiver (playing on a lap-top) I can't use f0 but instead I have to use f*0, before this was only try for position 2, 4, 6.

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                  • Psi
                    Knight
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 870

                    #24
                    Originally posted by thapper
                    Just a quick question, what does "dam 5 + 13" on the frost beam spell for the mage means (I assume it doesn't mean damage 18)?
                    I believe it does actually. I think it is giving you a clue as to how the damage is derived, which I believe is: 5 + CL

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                    • Seany C
                      Swordsman
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 283

                      #25
                      Just one game-play issue so far: f an early-mid level Mage (up to CL20, at least) is going to be very stuck against any monster that has RBase plus RPois. In previous versions, there was at least the Sisyphean approach of using MM on golems, etc, but there doesn't seem to be a non-elemental attack in the first three books. Which isn't inherently a Bad Thing but definitely stops Mages from being able to dive with the ease of other casters (e.g. Druids have Gravity Bolt, Priests have OoD, Necros have Dark Bolt, etc)...

                      Apart from that, it looks good - I like the flavour of some of the new egos and the racially-profiled mobs...

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                      • Nick
                        Vanilla maintainer
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9633

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Psi
                        I believe it does actually. I think it is giving you a clue as to how the damage is derived, which I believe is: 5 + CL
                        Correct. It is a (small) bug - it should just say 18.
                        One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                        In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                        • Nick
                          Vanilla maintainer
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9633

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Seany C
                          Just one game-play issue so far: f an early-mid level Mage (up to CL20, at least) is going to be very stuck against any monster that has RBase plus RPois. In previous versions, there was at least the Sisyphean approach of using MM on golems, etc, but there doesn't seem to be a non-elemental attack in the first three books. Which isn't inherently a Bad Thing but definitely stops Mages from being able to dive with the ease of other casters (e.g. Druids have Gravity Bolt, Priests have OoD, Necros have Dark Bolt, etc)...
                          This is deliberate. Mages get the best detection, device use and teleportation - the tradeoff is in less early spell damage. At CL20, though, you get the Best Spell Ever.

                          Apart from that, it looks good - I like the flavour of some of the new egos and the racially-profiled mobs...
                          Yes, I had quite a lot of fun with egos. And instead of "Easterling Novice Mage" I should have had "Novice Mage of Easterling Appearance"
                          One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                          In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                          • Nick
                            Vanilla maintainer
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 9633

                            #28
                            Character dumps fail

                            Psi has found that character dumps fail in WinCE, and I've tested and they fail in linux as well. So it looks like no dumps for now; I'll be getting this fixed and out as soon as possible.
                            One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                            In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                            • Psi
                              Knight
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 870

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Seany C
                              Which isn't inherently a Bad Thing but definitely stops Mages from being able to dive with the ease of other casters (e.g. Druids have Gravity Bolt, Priests have OoD, Necros have Dark Bolt, etc)...
                              You might think that, but my HE mage is CL29, has Mim down and is now at DL62 of Angband after 73k turns. I'd stick up a dump if it wasn't broken

                              Just avoid (or TA if you can) anything you can't kill and make the most of frost beam, thrust away, teleport other, telekenesis and stone to mud.

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                              • Nick
                                Vanilla maintainer
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 9633

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Psi
                                You might think that, but my HE mage is CL29, has Mim down and is now at DL62 of Angband after 73k turns. I'd stick up a dump if it wasn't broken
                                Well, it turns out the dumps are NOT broken - they just require an inversion of logic. When asked if you want to replace the existing file, answer no. It wiil then happily replace the file. If, on the other hand, you answer yes, you will be told "Character dump failed!". So there will be a bugfix out soon, but it's not quite as urgent as I thought.

                                Words fail me.
                                One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                                In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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