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  • Pete Mack
    Prophet
    • Apr 2007
    • 6883

    #91
    Something is hinky with flasks of oil. My new blackguard just killed Bullroarer (60HP) with 2(!) of them, frightening him on the first shot.

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    • Ingwe Ingweron
      Veteran
      • Jan 2009
      • 2129

      #92
      Originally posted by Pete Mack
      Something is hinky with flasks of oil. My new blackguard just killed Bullroarer (60HP) with 2(!) of them, frightening him on the first shot.
      Wow, that's some pretty lucky throws, or very good Molatov cocktails!
      “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
      ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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      • Sphara
        Knight
        • Oct 2016
        • 504

        #93
        Not just luck.

        I picked a gnome ranger (4.2.2 angband.live) and the starting shops didn't offer any affordable weapon. My only offense was getting 40 flasks of oil and.. they one-shot everything in the first level. Instakilled cutpurses and soldiers. I've used these before and they were not this powerful. This breaks the early game and needs to be checked for the next version. Edit: or raise the price of oil dramatically
        Last edited by Sphara; May 12, 2021, 05:07.

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        • will_asher
          DaJAngband Maintainer
          • Apr 2007
          • 1124

          #94
          Originally posted by Sphara
          Not just luck.

          I picked a gnome ranger (4.2.2 angband.live) and the starting shops didn't offer any affordable weapon. My only offense was getting 40 flasks of oil and.. they one-shot everything in the first level. Instakilled cutpurses and soldiers. I've used these before and they were not this powerful. This breaks the early game and needs to be checked for the next version. Edit: or raise the price of oil dramatically
          <fills gas tank and gas can in anticipation of high prices.>
          Will_Asher
          aka LibraryAdventurer

          My old variant DaJAngband:
          http://sites.google.com/site/dajangbandwebsite/home (defunct and so old it's forked from Angband 3.1.0 -I think- but it's probably playable...)

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          • wobbly
            Prophet
            • May 2012
            • 2629

            #95
            Oil flasks are 2lbs with the throwing tag. From memory thats about 3.2x old damage?

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            • wobbly
              Prophet
              • May 2012
              • 2629

              #96
              Is rune id working properly for rnether? Pretty sure I got nether bolted by a necromancer and the rune didn't id

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              • Pete Mack
                Prophet
                • Apr 2007
                • 6883

                #97
                Is that enough to get from 3d4 damage to somewhere near 30? I didn't get "good hit" messages when I killed Bullroarer.
                Not that I really want to complain. It is a fun exploit while it lasts.

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                • wobbly
                  Prophet
                  • May 2012
                  • 2629

                  #98
                  Originally posted by Pete Mack
                  Is that enough to get from 3d4 damage to somewhere near 30? I didn't get "good hit" messages when I killed Bullroarer.
                  Not that I really want to complain. It is a fun exploit while it lasts.
                  So if I'm reading this right, it's not actually 3d4. Its 1d4 x 3 (explode).

                  Code:
                  /* Direct adjustment for exploding things (flasks of oil) */
                  	if (of_has(obj->flags, OF_EXPLODE))
                  		result.dmg *= 3;
                  then x 3.66 (throwing).

                  Code:
                  dmg *= 2 + missile->weight / 12;
                  so it'll actually do 33+ 50% of the time and that's without criticals.

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                  • Pete Mack
                    Prophet
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 6883

                    #99
                    @wobbly--
                    The mean is the same for 1d4*3 and 3d4. But the variance is a whole lot higher.

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                    • will_asher
                      DaJAngband Maintainer
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 1124

                      I recently discovered the [tab] command to fire default ammo at the nearest target and I've been using it (while testing my variant). Seems to me that if you already have a target chosen that it should use the chosen target instead of the nearest monster.
                      Will_Asher
                      aka LibraryAdventurer

                      My old variant DaJAngband:
                      http://sites.google.com/site/dajangbandwebsite/home (defunct and so old it's forked from Angband 3.1.0 -I think- but it's probably playable...)

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                      • fruviad
                        Apprentice
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 74

                        More site-related than 4.2.2-related, but...

                        The "release page" hyperlink for 4.2.2 is mis-coded in the News ticker on the angband.oook.cz page. Look at the "Angband 4.2.2 released" announcement...the HTML has an extra pair of quotes, breaking the link to the page.

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                        • Ingwe Ingweron
                          Veteran
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 2129

                          Originally posted by Nick
                          It is also worth noting here that rephial is no longer updating. Both nightly builds and official releases should be downloaded from the release page; they will also be available on angband.live. There will possibly be some more changes to Angband web presence coming some time (sorry for the vagueness).
                          Maybe you could ask Pav to change the link on the "About" page on the forum so that it points to the angband release page instead of rephial.
                          “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
                          ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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                          • wobbly
                            Prophet
                            • May 2012
                            • 2629

                            MITZE made some joke about the description of Theoden while I was playing,

                            "The narrow axe head of this weapon would pierce the armour of a very Dragon, and the designs of your enemies stand naked and revealed."

                            and yeah, that does read rather weirdly. I'm not sure whether its correct or incorrect. Normally very would be specifying a specific dragon "this very dragon" rather then "a very dragon".

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                            • wobbly
                              Prophet
                              • May 2012
                              • 2629

                              Noticed a bit of an annoying issue with squelch. There's no way to squelch "all except for throwing weapons"

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                              • Sky
                                Veteran
                                • Oct 2016
                                • 2321

                                Originally posted by wobbly
                                MITZE made some joke about the description of Theoden while I was playing,

                                "The narrow axe head of this weapon would pierce the armour of a very Dragon, and the designs of your enemies stand naked and revealed."

                                and yeah, that does read rather weirdly. I'm not sure whether its correct or incorrect. Normally very would be specifying a specific dragon "this very dragon" rather then "a very dragon".
                                it's saying "of an actual dragon" rather than "a metaphorical dragon", implying that the listeren of such a phrase would think that "pierce the scales of a dragon" just means it's pretty good at piercing stuff. So basically it reads as "and it will pierce the scales of a dragon, no i mean it, of an ACTUAL dragon, literally."

                                Think of the katana that "will cut a tank in two". It's obvious hyperbole so if you happened to own a katana that can *actually* cut a tank in two, you would need some reinforcing to explain that you really mean that literally.
                                "i can take this dracolich"

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