Blackguards: 4.2.0 to 4.2.1

[DavidMedley]

Dammit. Must have introduced that when we fixed the problem of not going through doors.

[DavidMedley]

Or maybe we broke it at another time. I'm certain at one time if you had a wall of foes in the way it would say "The way is barred." Ugh!

[archolewa]

I mean, you could always keep it. It seems to only work consistently if you don't have an alternate path except through an enemy. Makes for some fun enemy selection to get the most out of that leap.

Personally, I was imagining my blackguard basically leaping on top of one enemy, stabbing it, and then leaping away to attack their original target.

[DavidMedley]

Archolewa, you ruined my life you sonovabitch!

If it used movement and blows consistently I'd be OK with it. But you can get extra blows using this exploit.

Oh well. A great reason to look forward to 4.2.2, I guess.

[Sky]

Maim is definitely worth giving up 2 blows for vs stunable enemies that you can't kill in 2 rounds or less.

both Sauron and Morgoth can be stunned

[Eric]

Changes to Bloodlust

Finally getting to try out the 4.2.1 blackboard, having a lot of fun - finally had a heavier weapon without finding Forasgil at lvl 20, easier Venom is nice.

I tried out Bloodlust against a pack of troll scavengers without having rPois (not my best move) and ended up going into negative HP after trying to 'q' some healing - but to my surprise while acrolling through messages, "Your thirst for blood keeps you alive!" And a quote about Mormegil. That made my day - not sure when that was added, but man, is it cool! I like how Grim purpose and venom can play nicely with bloodlust as well.

[archolewa]

I like how Grim purpose and venom can play nicely with bloodlust as well.

Wait until you get werewolf. One of my favorite things to do against uniques as a blackguard is throw down bloodlust, go werewolf, and tear them apart while all the Warriors go green with envy. I tore through Shelob in like no time at all using that method.

Though, I generally avoid using bloodlust against mobs. I don't like it taking control away from my character. A death mold dropped me down to negative health because of Bloodlust, though Bloodlust did at least keep me alive, much like what happened with you.

Also, don't cast Unholy Respite on 0 SP when you're near Al-Pharazon the Golden. Just, don't.

That being said, I do like how well the Blackguard manages to balance removing options and control in exchange for damage. Bloodlust is more likley to take away control the more charged it gets, werewolf form means you can't cast spells or use consumables, but you can cancel it at any time. Much better than DCSS' berserk stripping you of your ability to use any consumables at all while it's active, or Frogcomposband's Berserker not allowed to use anything but potions.

[DavidMedley]

And a quote about Mormegil. That made my day - not sure when that was added, but man, is it cool!

That was my favorite flavor text for sure. It's pretty rare; you're the first person I've heard of to encounter it. I've never even seen it in my normal non-debug playthroughs!

Thanks for the positive feedback guys! Makes me absurdly happy.

[DavidMedley]

Bloodlust is only slightly changed from Nick's original design. It's so quirky and interesting!

[Nick]

Bloodlust is only slightly changed from Nick's original design. It's so quirky and interesting!

Yes. David's responsible for almost everything else about the new blackguards though, except for the original concept, which was Gwarl's.

[mrfy]

Made it to dungeon level 94 with my Blackguard before doing something stupid (failed to zap rod of Healing instead of quaffing a potion). It was a good run, and I was using werewolf mode a lot more. I think I only had Sauron and Morgoth left to fight out of all the uniques.

Onto a different character, going to try priest again.

[Ingwe Ingweron]

Made it to dungeon level 94 with my Blackguard before doing something stupid (failed to zap rod of Healing instead of quaffing a potion). It was a good run, and I was using werewolf mode a lot more. I think I only had Sauron and Morgoth left to fight out of all the uniques.

Onto a different character, going to try priest again.

A case in point for not fighting all of the uniques.

[mrfy]

A case in point for not fighting all of the uniques.

It wasn't a unique I was fighting, it was a bunch of super undead from a graveyard pit. Could have left them alone.

[Ingwe Ingweron]

It wasn't a unique I was fighting, it was a bunch of super undead from a graveyard pit. Could have left them alone.

So, your @ died in an avalanche. On Climbing Methods: Please read http://angband.oook.cz/forum/showthr...826#post107826 Then go to guns on the Big Bosses. Good luck!

[mrfy]

So, your @ died in an avalanche. On Climbing Methods: Please read http://angband.oook.cz/forum/showthr...826#post107826 Then go to guns on the Big Bosses. Good luck!

My winning conditions include killing all the uniques. I'll continue taking my chances and evaluating risk vs rewards. I've played long enough to realize when my @ isn't ready to take on uniques and monsters. I enjoy playing my long games and sometimes I do make mistakes.

I'm really finding double keypresses happening now while I'm typing this message. I suspect it is a MacOSX issue, and saw it with my numeric keypad while exploring the dungeon. Quite dangerous.