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  • MattB
    Veteran
    • Mar 2013
    • 1214

    #61
    Originally posted by tangar
    7) Pure-Tolkien games is a danger of copyright.

    Angband was a 'loosely' Tolkien-based game. Current lore revamp makes it quite 'strongly' focused. This is the least important factor imho, but it still exist.
    Show me the person who is making money out of Angband. Because that will be the only person they can sue.

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    • Derakon
      Prophet
      • Dec 2009
      • 9022

      #62
      Originally posted by MattB
      Show me the person who is making money out of Angband. Because that will be the only person they can sue.
      Plenty of not-for-profit fangames get cease-and-desist letters. Just because you're not making a profit doesn't mean you can do whatever you like with other peoples' IP. Even if you are in the clear (generally meaning your use falls under "fair use"), just having to fight it out in court represents a huge expenditure of time and energy.

      There's a reason why PernAngband became ToME and replaced all the dragonriders with "thunderlords".

      (I am not a lawyer, this is not legal advice)

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      • fph
        Veteran
        • Apr 2009
        • 1030

        #63
        Originally posted by Carnivean
        I remember a story about the original Moria maintainer and his sense of fun. He'd developed the game for his college, but another college had gotten word of it and wanted in. The dev changed the monster list for the town to make a "football fan" of his college that was a rapid breeder and always awake, so as soon as the new college students started playing they were swarmed and killed. After both sides had a laugh he showed them how to revert the monster list and play normally.
        You can read more about it in "Dungeon Hacks", a book on the history of roguelikes. It's among a lot of other interesting stories, some of them featuring users of this forum.
        --
        Dive fast, die young, leave a high-CHA corpse.

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        • dos350
          Knight
          • Sep 2010
          • 546

          #64
          wow wow wow!
          great read

          honestly i dont see the point in updating monster names,, so wat if its tolkien or watever, it became its own hybrid lore: angband

          i will miss dark elf and etc
          ~eek

          Reality hits you -more-

          S+++++++++++++++++++

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          • Djabanete
            Knight
            • Apr 2007
            • 576

            #65
            Originally posted by Derakon
            Neither game was particularly serious in tone. Moria had the Grape Jelly and Evil Iggy, and Angband had Qlzqqlzuup and potions of Slime Mold Juice.
            Duuude...

            Nick is butchering the game unless he brings back the Evil Iggy.

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            • PowerWyrm
              Prophet
              • Apr 2008
              • 2986

              #66
              Originally posted by Djabanete
              Duuude...

              Nick is butchering the game unless he brings back the Evil Iggy.
              Don't forget the Stooges!
              PWMAngband variant maintainer - check https://github.com/draconisPW/PWMAngband (or http://www.mangband.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=9) to learn more about this new variant!

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              • Pete Mack
                Prophet
                • Apr 2007
                • 6883

                #67
                Hey, he can also bring in some joke monsters like that dl1 unique mold in ToME, especially if he is already adding Power Dragons or their equivalent.
                Originally posted by PowerWyrm
                Don't forget the Stooges!

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                • Derakon
                  Prophet
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 9022

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Pete Mack
                  Hey, he can also bring in some joke monsters like that dl1 unique mold in ToME, especially if he is already adding Power Dragons or their equivalent.
                  Don't forget about Barney the Dinosaur, Bull Gates, the toxic-waste breath ability, and some random Finnish politician.

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                  • Pete Mack
                    Prophet
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 6883

                    #69
                    @Derakon
                    Sure. But I particularly liked that mold. It is a great joke.

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                    • kandrc
                      Swordsman
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 299

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Pete Mack
                      Hey, he can also bring in some joke monsters like that dl1 unique mold in ToME, especially if he is already adding Power Dragons or their equivalent.
                      Fungi and molds are not the same thing, but: http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20141...m-in-the-world

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                      • Pete Mack
                        Prophet
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 6883

                        #71
                        kandrc-- honey mushroom would have to be a special level, not just a single monster.

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                        • Therem Harth
                          Knight
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 926

                          #72
                          Originally posted by Pete Mack
                          kandrc-- honey mushroom would have to be a special level, not just a single monster.
                          immediately goes off to implement this in a new variant with a misleading name and terrible code

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                          • Pete Mack
                            Prophet
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 6883

                            #73
                            You have 31 days to finish. Call it narocomo. (Natl roguelike code month.)

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                            • Nick
                              Vanilla maintainer
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9634

                              #74
                              This thread has gone way off topic, we need to ... never mind.
                              One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                              In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                              • Pete Mack
                                Prophet
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 6883

                                #75
                                It is entirely on topic, Nick: we are all trying hard to come up with novel ways to help you butcher the game.
                                Last edited by Pete Mack; March 2, 2019, 09:02.

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