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  • Petoften
    Knight
    • Jun 2018
    • 566

    #91
    Is there any reason to prefer wand or staff? Wands are lighter...

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    • Petoften
      Knight
      • Jun 2018
      • 566

      #92
      I can get rid of the 4 dex ring, right?

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      • Monkey Face
        Adept
        • Feb 2009
        • 244

        #93
        Originally posted by Petoften
        Maybe I can reduce CCW but I've seen people say 'carry at least 30' I thought.
        Don't reduce !CCW, reduce !CSW.

        Regarding your subsequent question on wands versus staffs, staffs usually have a wider area of effect. For example, wand of sleep monster affects one monster whereas staff affects all in LOS (although personally, I keep many of either except wands of drain life, annihilation, teleport other, and maybe some other offensive ones and staff of mapping or teleportation).

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        • Petoften
          Knight
          • Jun 2018
          • 566

          #94
          Originally posted by Monkey Face
          Don't reduce !CCW, reduce !CSW.

          Regarding your subsequent question on wands versus staffs, staffs usually have a wider area of effect. For example, wand of sleep monster affects one monster whereas staff affects all in LOS (although personally, I keep many of either except wands of drain life, annihilation, teleport other, and maybe some other offensive ones and staff of mapping or teleportation).
          Ah, I hadn't noticed it's wand of confuse monster, but staff of confuse monsters. Good point on CSW, I'll put them in the house, but it's full also.

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          • wobbly
            Prophet
            • May 2012
            • 2631

            #95
            Originally posted by Petoften
            I can get rid of the 4 dex ring, right?
            The only stat ring I'd care about for hobbit ranger is con. The others don't effect a bow, it's only going to be an issue of whether you can get the hps. Chances are you can find enough con else where to use speed rings instead.

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            • wobbly
              Prophet
              • May 2012
              • 2631

              #96
              Originally posted by Petoften
              Doesn't the risk of destroying the item when recharging increase the more charges it has? So, you don't want to recharge much?

              If that's the case, doesn't it defeat the purpose of carrying multiple of the same item, because you only want a few charges?
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              I think this might of been fixed in recent versions. If you have x no. of wands & x-1 charges it's the same odds as an empty device

              Besides destroying 1 when you have 2 isn't so bad and if you don't have rblind you'll probably want 2 teleport staves to deal with accidents

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              • Adam
                Adept
                • Feb 2016
                • 194

                #97
                I don't play 4.1.2, so i don't know how ranger shots were changed in that version (in older versions rangers get +1 shot at level 20 and one more at level 40).
                But i would take a look at the ammo you store at home.
                After next recall i would equip the sling and check how much damage the different types do compared to the basic (0:0) arrows (and probably drop most of them). I know that your sling is weaker than your bow but i bet you will never use most of those pebbles and iron shots.
                Also carrying 5 types of books with 45 SP seems to much to me, but it depends on playstyle (what spells you use from them and how often). For example i normally don't carry book 2, teleport staff or scroll is enough. Book 4 may also be something to think about, TO/haste is probably too much mana and too high failure rate (at least to my taste, i don't rest just to retry haste again).
                You have temp resist activation on your cloak, don't forget to use it (but i would still carry the resistances book).

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                • Pete Mack
                  Prophet
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 6883

                  #98
                  Ranger will never use the crossbow, either. He gets no extra shot, so an x3 bow is strictly better than an x3 crossbow. An endgame Ranger will always, always use a bow--Bard or an x5 Lothlorien longbow if he can get it.

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                  • Petoften
                    Knight
                    • Jun 2018
                    • 566

                    #99
                    Originally posted by wobbly
                    The only stat ring I'd care about for hobbit ranger is con. The others don't effect a bow, it's only going to be an issue of whether you can get the hps. Chances are you can find enough con else where to use speed rings instead.
                    Haven't seen any speed - right now I want STR since I'm encumbered losing speed and bow damage. I lost some STR drinking a potion...

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                    • Petoften
                      Knight
                      • Jun 2018
                      • 566

                      Originally posted by Adam
                      You have temp resist activation on your cloak, don't forget to use it (but i would still carry the resistances book).
                      Thanks for the reminder - I had forgotten that was on the cloak because it didn't seem to matter when I thought it was not useful.

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                      • Petoften
                        Knight
                        • Jun 2018
                        • 566

                        Originally posted by Pete Mack
                        Ranger will never use the crossbow, either. He gets no extra shot, so an x3 bow is strictly better than an x3 crossbow. An endgame Ranger will always, always use a bow--Bard or an x5 Lothlorien longbow if he can get it.
                        Good to know. Why is that (this crossbow is (15,10) which is pretty nice?) It lets me free a spot if I don't need it.

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                        • Petoften
                          Knight
                          • Jun 2018
                          • 566

                          The rod of detection versus two rods of treasure finding has come up again - but this time I have telepathy, changing the tradeoffs.

                          I'm not sure the detection has any advantage over treasure detection now other than non-sentient creatures showing up.

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                          • Monkey Face
                            Adept
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 244

                            Originally posted by Petoften
                            Good to know. Why is that (this crossbow is (15,10) which is pretty nice?) It lets me free a spot if I don't need it.
                            Rangers get extra shots using a bow that they don't get using a sling or crossbow. I believe it is one extra shot per turn at level 20 and 2 extra shots at level 40.

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                            • wobbly
                              Prophet
                              • May 2012
                              • 2631

                              Originally posted by Petoften
                              The rod of detection versus two rods of treasure finding has come up again - but this time I have telepathy, changing the tradeoffs.

                              I'm not sure the detection has any advantage over treasure detection now other than non-sentient creatures showing up.
                              Qs and golems wont show to telelathy. Don't you have an object detecting spell? You'll want detection for when you find a second. I'm on dlvl 99 with telepathy & still using detection a lot.

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                              • Pete Mack
                                Prophet
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 6883

                                Detrct treasure is fine for you. You already have the other detection spells. That said, it may be worth storing the detection rods until you have enough, since the activation is so much better, and it saves mana and time. They also cant be broken by lightning.


                                That said, what you really want is clairvoyance on your light source.

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