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  • NotMorgoth
    Adept
    • Feb 2008
    • 234

    #16
    I found a brigandine armor of Elvenkind on a very early level in Sangband, but it was too heavy, and by the time I had enough strength to wear it without being slow, I had better armor.

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    • Pete Mack
      Prophet
      • Apr 2007
      • 6883

      #17
      Many of these things aren't out of depth, just not common, especially at low dls.

      The most common extreme out-of-depth thing to find is dungeon books, most have which have rarity 1. (Except Wrath--that's a genuinely rare find.)

      Something like MHDSM or BaDSM is a truly rare find.

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      • dhegler
        Swordsman
        • Sep 2009
        • 252

        #18
        Originally posted by Pete Mack
        Many of these things aren't out of depth, just not common, especially at low dls.

        The most common extreme out-of-depth thing to find is dungeon books, most have which have rarity 1. (Except Wrath--that's a genuinely rare find.)

        Something like MHDSM or BaDSM is a truly rare find.
        I consider OOD anything that is found significantly lower than its level rating. I thought all items had level rating and rarity... For instance, I typically don't find speed rings until dlvl 70 or so, "rare" books show up around lvl 20 or so if I remember right.

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        • Pete Mack
          Prophet
          • Apr 2007
          • 6883

          #19
          Depends on which dungeon book. They range from dl 40 to dl 80 (with Wrath at dl 100).

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          • Zikke
            Veteran
            • Jun 2008
            • 1069

            #20
            I consider out of depth to be anything to which I audibly respond "holy crap" when I find it on dlvl 5.
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            • Zababa
              Apprentice
              • Sep 2009
              • 99

              #21
              I have found a Scroll of Banishment somewhere in dl 1, 2 or 3 during my first dive. Of course I have read it to identify it.

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              • Nick
                Vanilla maintainer
                • Apr 2007
                • 9647

                #22
                Originally posted by Pete Mack
                Something like MHDSM or BaDSM is a truly rare find.
                When my son was about ten, he started playing Angband. Not long after, he came to me and said "What's Balance Dragon Scale Mail?". Dropped by Bolg at about 800'. This was *after* finding a RoS(+11) at about 600' with an earlier character. I'm yet to have a find to rival either of these.
                One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                • Pete Mack
                  Prophet
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 6883

                  #23
                  @Nick --
                  The reason I mentioned them is that I once found both on the same level around 1600'.
                  Kind of sticks with you.

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                  • JohnCW9
                    Adept
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 118

                    #24
                    The most OOD monster I saw was The Lernaean Hydra at very shallow depth in Sangband. there was no way I could damage it let alone killed, I think I saw it latter in game.
                    My first legit winner http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=5114

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                    • NotMorgoth
                      Adept
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 234

                      #25
                      What version of Sangband was that? I don't think the Lernaean Hydra is in the current version. In fact I'm pretty sure Sangband doesn't have hydras at all.

                      I just found a Necronomicon (native to DL 95) on DL 58. Doesn't really compare with those DSMs, but it came as quite a surprise as I've never found one of last spellbooks before the 90s before.

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                      • JohnCW9
                        Adept
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 118

                        #26
                        Originally posted by NotMorgoth
                        What version of Sangband was that? I don't think the Lernaean Hydra is in the current version. In fact I'm pretty sure Sangband doesn't have hydras at all.

                        I just found a Necronomicon (native to DL 95) on DL 58. Doesn't really compare with those DSMs, but it came as quite a surprise as I've never found one of last spellbooks before the 90s before.
                        It could of been another varirat like Posband of something like that
                        My first legit winner http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=5114

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                        • Timo Pietilä
                          Prophet
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 4096

                          #27
                          I found Great Checkerboard Vault at 250' once. Of course that wasn't serious game and I was experimenting with debug-mode created The One Ring at that time.

                          I have seen BoS +12 at Armorer. RDSM at dlvl 150' or something like that. Found BoS +1 (before fractional speed system) at dlvl 1. Holy Avenger dagger (+15,+15) (+4) dropped by battle scarred veteran. BalanceDSM at stat-gain (When chaos resist still gave immunity to confusion effect). Ringil many times before stat-gain. RoS dropped by some orcs before 1000'. And of course Wrath of God before stat-gain playing mage and Raal's when playing priest.

                          My best "woot" moment is still the one when I found Feanor, but that might have something to do with the fact that I had been playing this game for nearly two decades before finding them...

                          Right next to that would be the one case when I found *two* GCV:s in same level.

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                          • Magnate
                            Angband Devteam member
                            • May 2007
                            • 5110

                            #28
                            That reminds me that I've seen Maggot drop red DSM. I've also seen him drop a dagger (+4) HA, which was almost equally awesome. Both were times when he appeared before I'd ever entered the dungeon, making the drops even more amazing.
                            "Been away so long I hardly knew the place, gee it's good to be back home" - The Beatles

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                            • JohnCW9
                              Adept
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 118

                              #29
                              I have a posted HE Priest that had ALL his books including 'Wrath of God' when he died on dl 41-42. I belive he got from a vault at a higher level.
                              My first legit winner http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=5114

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                              • buzzkill
                                Prophet
                                • May 2008
                                • 2939

                                #30
                                Gad Zooks! Playing NetAngband, just got a superb feeling on DL1. Found a Rod of Acid Balls (125 damage/33% failure rate/27 turn recharge), something powerful that I can actually use! Now I may have to 'play to win', rather than my original plan of 'just screw around for a while'. If only there were tiles
                                www.mediafire.com/buzzkill - Get your 32x32 tiles here. UT32 now compatible Ironband and Quickband 9/6/2012.
                                My banding life on Buzzkill's ladder.

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