Experiences with new Angband 4.2.5 and questions about Identifying and Variants

**Nick** · December 24, 2024, 21:20

Originally posted by Michaelyx

Despite all the joy of playing, this was dampened during the first purchase. I find stops where you are offered 0 gold for the "treasures" you have collected depressing. Trading is switched off by default - the variable "birth_no_selling" = yes. Too bad, I found the possible settings in the "birth options" too late.

Selling off was made the default many years ago, when there was general agreement among players that it improved the game, by de-emphasising the collect-loot-to-sell aspect.

Originally posted by Michaelyx

I was left confused by identifying:
Is it intentional that identifying e.g. "a Ruberry Mushroom" with "a Scroll of Identify Rune" doesn't work?

Yes. Runes are properties that wearable items have (acid resistance, feather falling, etc); once learned, they are recognised on any item with that property. For non-wearables like mushrooms, the best thing to do is try it, which will teach you what it it.

Originally posted by Michaelyx

Or that, for example, "the Cloak of Thorongil..." retains the question marks "(?,?)" after identification? As if the identification was not complete. After restarting the game the "(?,?)" disappeared. A piece of armor that I left in a shop to be identified showed similar behavior. I think it would be good if things were fully identified, or if there was an indication of further possibilities, for example a special *identification*.

What should happen here is that items get a {??} tag until all their runes are known. Is this what you're seeing?

**Michaelyx** · December 25, 2024, 16:32

Thanks for your explanation! Yes, the day is {??}.
Trying mushrooms I have a cautious attitude: If you don't know them, you shouldn't eat them. There are deadly poisonous ones in Angband too, right?
I just put on a cursed amulet. In this case, I was able to identify it and remove it in time.

**Michaelyx** · December 25, 2024, 16:40

Thanks for your explanation! Yes, the tag is {??}.
Trying mushrooms I have a cautious attitude: If you don't know them, you shouldn't eat them. There are deadly poisonous ones in Angband too, right?
I just put on a cursed amulet. In this case, I was able to identify it and remove it in time.

**Nick** · December 25, 2024, 21:08

There is no mushroom effects that are than temporarily inconvenient, and the same goes for potions, scrolls, etc. This doesn't mean that there aren't bad times to try a new one

**Michaelyx** · January 10, 2025, 14:29

Hello!
Can someone help me start the Ubuntu version of Angband 4.2.5 with graphics ? I tried on Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS

1. Downloaded from https://rephial.org/angband-4.2.5.tar.gz.
2. Unpacked in Finder under Downloads by double-clicking.
3. Couldn't find any information about installation or start of the game in the docs.

**Nick** · January 11, 2025, 00:15

Originally posted by Michaelyx

Hello!
Can someone help me start the Ubuntu version of Angband 4.2.5 with graphics ? I tried on Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS

1. Downloaded from https://rephial.org/angband-4.2.5.tar.gz.
2. Unpacked in Finder under Downloads by double-clicking.
3. Couldn't find any information about installation or start of the game in the docs.

I would recommend:

Code:

./autogen.sh
./configure --enable-sdl2 (or --enable-sdl if you prefer)
make
sudo make install

and then graphics are available from the menu in sdl2 or sdl.

Note that the instructions in the online docs are more or less, but for compiling in place so you just run ./angband on the angband directory.

**Nick** · January 11, 2025, 00:20

Note also that the instructions in the online docs are essentially this, but for compiling in place so that you run

Code:

.angband -msdl2

from the angband directory.

**backwardsEric** · January 11, 2025, 13:04

Thanks to magnate and other Debian maintainers, Ubuntu 24.04 and later also include Angband 4.2.5 in the standard set of packages. You could install the angband package (and the angband-audio package if you want to play with the sounds on). The prepackaged version of Angband does not include Shockbolt's tiles. If you want to use those, install from the .tar.gz with Nick's instructions above.

**Michaelyx** · January 12, 2025, 16:35

Originally posted by Nick

I would recommend:

Code:

./autogen.sh
./configure --enable-sdl2 (or --enable-sdl if you prefer)
make
sudo make install

and then graphics are available from the menu in sdl2 or sdl.

Note that the instructions in the online docs are more or less, but for compiling in place so you just run ./angband on the angband directory.

Thx for your answers!
Nick do you mean the directory angband-4.2.5?
I do get this error: File or directory not found

Code:

michaelyx@michaelyx-HP-EliteBook-840-G5:~/Downloads/angband-4.2.5$ ./angband
bash: ./angband: File or directory not found
michaelyx@michaelyx-HP-EliteBook-840-G5:~/Downloads/angband-4.2.5$ ./autogen.sh
*info* running aclocal (-I m4)
./autogen.sh: 38: aclocal: not found
*error* aclocal failed. (exit code = 127)
michaelyx@michaelyx-HP-EliteBook-840-G5:~/Downloads/angband-4.2.5$ ./configure --enable-sdl2
bash: ./configure: File or directory not found
michaelyx@michaelyx-HP-EliteBook-840-G5:~/Downloads/angband-4.2.5$ ls -la
insgesamt 296
drwxrwxr-x 12 michaelyx michaelyx  4096 Aug 19  2023 .
drwxr-xr-x  5 michaelyx michaelyx  4096 J?n 10 14:01 ..
-rw-rw-r--  1 michaelyx michaelyx 19558 Aug 19  2023 acinclude.m4
-rwxrwxr-x  1 michaelyx michaelyx  2427 Aug 19  2023 autogen.sh
-rw-rw-r--  1 michaelyx michaelyx 22438 Aug 19  2023 changes.txt
-rw-rw-r--  1 michaelyx michaelyx 35794 Aug 19  2023 CMakeLists.txt
-rwxrwxr-x  1 michaelyx michaelyx 49938 Aug 19  2023 config.guess
-rwxrwxr-x  1 michaelyx michaelyx 35818 Aug 19  2023 config.sub
-rw-rw-r--  1 michaelyx michaelyx 21584 Aug 19  2023 configure.ac
-rw-rw-r--  1 michaelyx michaelyx 13123 Aug 19  2023 CONTRIBUTING.md
drwxrwxr-x  5 michaelyx michaelyx  4096 Aug 19  2023 docs
drwxrwxr-x  3 michaelyx michaelyx  4096 Aug 19  2023 .github
-rw-rw-r--  1 michaelyx michaelyx   843 Aug 19  2023 .gitignore
-rwxrwxr-x  1 michaelyx michaelyx  5598 Aug 19  2023 install-sh
drwxrwxr-x 11 michaelyx michaelyx  4096 Aug 19  2023 lib
drwxrwxr-x  2 michaelyx michaelyx  4096 Aug 19  2023 m4
-rw-rw-r--  1 michaelyx michaelyx  2732 Aug 19  2023 Makefile
drwxrwxr-x  2 michaelyx michaelyx  4096 Aug 19  2023 mk
-rw-rw-r--  1 michaelyx michaelyx   737 Aug 19  2023 README.md
-rwxrwxr-x  1 michaelyx michaelyx   547 Aug 19  2023 run-tests
drwxrwxr-x  2 michaelyx michaelyx  4096 Aug 19  2023 screenshots
drwxrwxr-x  2 michaelyx michaelyx  4096 Aug 19  2023 scripts
drwxrwxr-x 10 michaelyx michaelyx 12288 Aug 19  2023 src
drwxrwxr-x  4 michaelyx michaelyx  4096 Aug 19  2023 tests
-rw-rw-r--  1 michaelyx michaelyx   141 Aug 19  2023 .travis.yml
drwxrwxr-x  2 michaelyx michaelyx  4096 Aug 19  2023 utils
michaelyx@michaelyx-HP-EliteBook-840-G5:~/Downloads/angband-4.2.5$

**Michaelyx** · January 12, 2025, 20:32

I was now able to sucessfully compile. Had to install automake libtool before: https://stackoverflow.com/a/69172681

Code:

michaelyx@michaelyx-HP-EliteBook-840-G5:~/Downloads/angband-4.2.5$ sudo apt-get install automake libtool
Paketlisten werden gelesen… Fertig
Abh?ngigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut… Fertig
Statusinformationen werden eingelesen… Fertig
Die folgenden zus?tzlichen Pakete werden installiert:
  autoconf autotools-dev libltdl-dev m4
Vorgeschlagene Pakete:
  autoconf-archive gnu-standards autoconf-doc libtool-doc gfortran
  | fortran95-compiler gcj-jdk m4-doc
Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden installiert:
  autoconf automake autotools-dev libltdl-dev libtool m4
0 aktualisiert, 6 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 15 nicht aktualisiert.
Es m?ssen 1.521 kB an Archiven heruntergeladen werden.
Nach dieser Operation werden 6.667 kB Plattenplatz zus?tzlich benutzt.
M?chten Sie fortfahren? [J/n] j
...

**Michaelyx** · January 12, 2025, 20:45

Originally posted by Nick

Note also that the instructions in the online docs are essentially this, but for compiling in place so that you run

Code:

.angband -msdl2

from the angband directory.

Unfortunately, when I start Angband this way I get the following error message: What am I doing wrong?

Code:

michaelyx@michaelyx-HP-EliteBook-840-G5:~/Downloads/angband-4.2.5/src$ ./angband -msdl2
./angband: Unable to prepare any 'display module'!
michaelyx@michaelyx-HP-EliteBook-840-G5:~/Downloads/angband-4.2.5/src$

**Nick** · January 12, 2025, 21:18

OK, this failed because you don't have the autotools package installed. If you are not familiar with building stuff for your system, you can either:

Install autotools, plus whatever other necessary packages you don't have; anything you don't understand you can ask back here or just search; or
Do what Eric said.

It just depends on your preference

**Michaelyx** · January 13, 2025, 08:52

Hi! Thanks for your help!
I tried to install Angband but got this Error

Code:

EliteBook-840-G5:~/Downloads/angband-4.2.5/src$ ./angband -msdl2

./angband: Unable to prepare any 'display module'!

What is going wrong?

**Nick** · January 13, 2025, 10:03

This means you don't have the correct sdl2 packages. I believe you need SDL2_image and SDL2_ttf, and SDL2_mixer if you want sound.

Experiences with new Angband 4.2.5 and questions about Identifying and Variants

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