Experiences with new Angband 4.2.5 and questions about Identifying and Variants

[Michaelyx]

Thank you! That gave me the crucial clue: Now Angband starts again!
I had copied the sdl2ini.txt from a previous installation to get the windows in the right place and forgot to adapt the path to: window-wallpaper-path:0:/home/michaelyx/Downloads/angband_24_01/lib/icons/att-128.png in the file for the new installation.

Unfortunately, I haven't made any progress with using or finding personal save files in my Installation yet.

OK. Have you looked in ~/.angband/Angband/save/ ?

No save folder is created in ~/.angband/angband.
I recognised there is no way to open or load a character file in my installation. Once the birth process is complete, Angband will automatically start with that character every time you reboot.
Any idea how fix this so I can use personal save files?

[PowerDiver]

When I was mucking about a couple days ago, I got my ~/.angband/Angband stuff into an inconsistent state. You might try renaming that and running again. A new one will be created. There is stuff in there that is accessed by the different installations. If that works to allow startup, you can then check what you want to copy over. E.g. lore.txt contains your monster knowledge. There are also some things that look like startup configs, in particular sdl2init.txt

Another possibility is that the sudo make install did stuff in a way that is inconsistent with a local install. You might try starting over from the download and omit that.

[PowerDiver]

Another question: Are multiple installations of Angand possible on one Ubuntu? E.g. to test the new version. What needs to be taken into account in order not to endanger the existing installation and, for example, accidentally overwrite save files.

You should always configure using --with-no-install until you are sure what you are doing. Then, everything is stored in that directory tree. You can use each install independently. You are making a mistake doing sudo make install when you aren't 100% sure of what you are doing. That is copying stuff to the system directories.

[Michaelyx]

I need your help again: I now have several installations of Angband next to each other in different folders.
I zipped the non-current installation folders to search for the missing save file. On startup "my Angband" produces an error:

"Fatal Error - cannot load image '/home/michaelyx/Downloads/Angband_git/angband_20_1/lib/icons/att-128.png': Couldn't open /home/michaelyx/Downloads/Angband_git/angband_20_1/lib/icons/att-18.png"

The startup process then stops - the terminal says:

michaelyx@michaelyx-HP-EliteBook-840-G5:~/Downloads/angband_last$ src/angband -msdl2
angband: main-sdl2.c:6848: free_globals: Assertion `!a->subwindows[i].inited' failed.
Aborted (memory dump written)
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"my Angband" is obviously using a file from another Angband installation. I checked, this file is present in both installations. If I unzip the folders again, the error is gone - angband starts.

I deleted "my Angband" downloaded a new version from Git and recompiled:
1. Load angband:
a) cd ~/Downloads
b) git clone git://github.com/angband/angband
c) mv angband angband_24_01
2. Compile the sourcecode:
a) cd ~/Downloads/angband_24_01
b) ./autogen.sh
c) ./configure --with-no-install --enable-sdl2
d) make
e) sudo make install
3. Start: src/angband -msdl2

Unfortunately the error remains. The recompiled version uses the same file from the wrong folder. Does anyone have an idea how to fix this error?

[Michaelyx]

After I deleted all the older installations from the neighboring folders, Angband no longer works. When starting, the following error message occurs:

"Fatal Error - cannot load image '/home/michaelyx/Downloads/Angband_git/angband_20_1/lib/icons/att-128.png': Couldn't open /home/michaelyx/Downloads/Angband_git/angband_20_1/lib/icons/att-18.png"

The startup process then stops - the terminal says:

michaelyx@michaelyx-HP-EliteBook-840-G5:~/Downloads/angband_last$ src/angband -msdl2
angband: main-sdl2.c:6848: free_globals: Assertion `!a->subwindows[i].inited' failed.
Aborted (memory dump written)

[Michaelyx]

Locate is not installed in Ubuntu 24.0.4 LTS

$ locate Orome | grep save
Der Befehl 'locate' wurde nicht gefunden, kann aber installiert werden mit:
sudo apt install plocate
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Do you meen plocate would be worth a try? In the wiki mlocate is suggested.
I'm not sure about the advantages and don't want to install programs if not necessary.

[PowerDiver]

Maybe try locate instead of find.

locate <capitalized username> | grep save

For example, my username is eddie but the current 4.2.5 savefile is Eddie. In the old days, it was 1000.Eddie.

[Michaelyx]

Thank you for your support!

First a correction: There was a typo in my last posting; the folder should be called lib/user/save.

The current save file is also not in ~/.angband/Angband/save/.
I couldn't find anything with find -name either. Is it possible that the save files are named differently in the current version of Angband?
I don't think it's anything special in a roguelike game that there is no "personal" save file. The seemingly unnecessary lib/user/save folder irritates me.
Maybe someone can shed some light on this.

[Nick]

If I save a previously created copy back into /lib/usr/save it is ignored. And when I accidentally moved the entire save folder with mv I was still able to start and continue the game. How can that be?

OK. Have you looked in ~/.angband/Angband/save/ ?

[Michaelyx]

If I save a previously created copy back into /lib/usr/save it is ignored. And when I accidentally moved the entire save folder with mv I was still able to start and continue the game. How can that be?

[Nick]

If configured --with-no-install, savefies should be in lib/user/save/ .

[Michaelyx]

I try to use my old char save files in the new compiled Angband.
In the .configure output for the installed version I found: “private save and score files in ~/.angband/Angband/”
Is there a way to use save files if angband was created --with-no-install?

[Egavactip]

There is no mushroom effects that are than temporarily inconvenient, and the same goes for potions, scrolls, etc. This doesn't mean that there aren't bad times to try a new one

Oh, were that only so. A mushroom of purging can kill you in the wrong circumstances, while getting a potion that raises a stat and lowers another one can be extremely damaging if it affects your strength in the early game. Similarly, deep descent can be very dangerous, etc.

[PowerDiver]

I just tested the latest version from github, and the menus worked for me as well. It appears that Wayland is enabled on my distro.

[Nick]

Excellent. Quite a bit of work has been done on it since 4.2.5 came out, mostly (all?) by backwardsEric.