Bug? The Cat Lord is not an animal.

[CunningGabe]

This is sort of random, but I noticed just now that the Cat Lord, unlike all other 'f' monsters, is not an animal (i.e. doesn't have the ANIMAL flag). Is that intentional or an oversight?

[Donald Jonker]

I can only presume it has something to do with the Andrew Lloyd Weber production, and must therefore be expunged and forgotten, forthwith.

[Zikke]

I can only presume it has something to do with the Andrew Lloyd Weber production, and must therefore be expunged and forgotten, forthwith.

The Jellicle Cats do not appreciate your insubordination.

[zaimoni]

This is sort of random, but I noticed just now that the Cat Lord, unlike all other 'f' monsters, is not an animal (i.e. doesn't have the ANIMAL flag). Is that intentional or an oversight?

Intentional; I think it's an early AD&D'ism. Also true in ADOM.

[fyonn]

Sorry to raise a really old thread, but shouldn't the cat lord be an animal? it's a feline after all..

I'm just melee'ing him now with the whip of gothmog which has slay_animal and (in my mind) ought to be smiting this chap...

dave

[PowerDiver]

Sorry to raise a really old thread, but shouldn't the cat lord be an animal?

I have no idea what a cat lord is, but I agree that it should either be an animal or else should not have the letter of an animal. Make it a 'p' or an 'h' if it is a person.

[fyonn]

I have no idea what a cat lord is

err.. monster number 516?

[ekolis]

It's a guy who travels through cat in a telephone booth, of course!

[Nemesis]

I always pictured the Cat Lord as a bipedal catman, and that would probably not count as an animal. One could argue that all living beings are animal, but then we're not taking Eru's intelligent design in consideration, he probably intended Elves and Dwarves and Men to be the crown of creation, in his image. Then Morgoth created/modified Orcs and Trolls and such to be in his image. And then Dragons were also an exception. And suddenly there weren't that many animals left who were animals.

[fyonn]

I always pictured the Cat Lord as a bipedal catman, and that would probably not count as an animal.

then wouldn't it be an 'H' for hybrid?

I think if it remains as 'f' for feline, then it should be classed as an animal and thus vulnerable to slay_animal. not that it matters for my current guy who took him down with gothmog anyway, but I think the point stands

dave

[Nemesis]

I think if it remains as 'f' for feline, then it should be classed as an animal and thus vulnerable to slay_animal. not that it matters for my current guy who took him down with gothmog anyway, but I think the point stands

dave

I pictured hybrids as "crazy-looking animal, like a Manticore or Chimera" and not "guy with animal head"... Minotaurs are classed as hybrids, though, even though they're just bullheaded, bullfooted humans... But the Cat Lord is probably not a mix between human and cat, but more like a Kobold, a cat on two legs who mentally resemble a human. Kobolds are not "animals" either.

[fyonn]

I pictured hybrids as "crazy-looking animal, like a Manticore or Chimera" and not "guy with animal head"... Minotaurs are classed as hybrids, though, even though they're just bullheaded, bullfooted humans... But the Cat Lord is probably not a mix between human and cat, but more like a Kobold, a cat on two legs who mentally resemble a human. Kobolds are not "animals" either.

and a Harpy is a hybrid and is a woman's face on the body of a bird (and is an animal).

I don't really mind either way, it just seems odd that anything defined by the symbol 'f' would not be an animal. but hey, it's only a very minor point.

dave

[Pete Mack]

Do note that Gothmog is also branded with fire, so Slay Animal wouldn't have helped anyway. Slay animal is not that big a deal, so why not make him an animal?

[Hariolor]

It's an old AD&D-ism. Heck, i think the monster manual it's in might be from regular ol' D&D, before the A got added at all...notice the -9AC...gotta love THAC0

http://vboards.stratics.com/showthread.php?p=1564358

[fyonn]

That does imply that the Cat Lord ought to be a 'p'... in which case, the slay_animal wouldn't and shouldn't have any effect.

dave