sometimes big Q just stands there

[Sky]

i've noticed more than once that the Q Emperor whatshisname, sometimes just stands there and gets melee'd without doing anything. Other times he''' summon like a maniac, but then again some times just gives up and waits to die. No messages from him, no "Q tries to cast a spell but fails", just stands inactive.

[Pete Mack]

If the room is small Qs can't do anything once it's filled up. I once got ridiculously lucky when Emperor Q summoned a huge group of energy hounds and made itself helpless, even in a somewhat larger room.

[PowerDiver]

If the room is small Qs can't do anything once it's filled up. I once got ridiculously lucky when Emperor Q summoned a huge group of energy hounds and made itself helpless, even in a somewhat larger room.

This is really important for someone like me who refuses LOS abuse tactics. Some times I can get the Queen Ant to summon before going after the Emperor Q in a vault. Don't kill her too early.

[PowerWyrm]

iirc there was a bug that prevented summons on tiles containing objects so you could simply throw arrows on adjacent tiles to prevent Q from summoning then just melee them to death, don't remember if it was fixed (probably)

[backwardsEric]

iirc there was a bug that prevented summons on tiles containing objects so you could simply throw arrows on adjacent tiles to prevent Q from summoning then just melee them to death, don't remember if it was fixed (probably)

Summoning still requires that the grid not have any objects (see square_allows_summon() in src/cave-square.c).

[Sky]

no, unfortunately none of these apply. He just does nothing. Plenty of room to summon.

[backwardsEric]

no, unfortunately none of these apply. He just does nothing. Plenty of room to summon.

Ignored objects would also prevent summoning to whatever grid they're on so you might toggle ignoring to see if that's the cause. In any case, if you can post a savefile where this is happening, that could help identify what's gone wrong.

[Estie]

I remember Q doing nothing, as well. I assumed it was part of its "attack routine", it having a move action that didnt result in a move. Normal Qs also sometimes do nothing.

[Pete Mack]

Normal Qs do not cast every turn, so that is expected. Master and Emperor Qs do, so there should be no missed turns, except those dictated by lower speed or lack of room.
Edit: OK, I did a rough calculation. With my current get-up I do 505 damage with Trident of Ulmo against animals (and evil with a spell.) With both blessing and heroism, I do 515. Further, against Greater Titan (picked to represent my current DL) I do 25 more damage with the buffing spells cast. That is 4.2 more damage per blow, so yes, the estimate of 50% is way off. It is closer to 25%. But that is for a Paladin. For a mage, it would be closer to +30 damage, or +8 per blow. That *is* getting close to 50%, and if for some reason I wanted to melee Morgoth, it'd be more.

[Sky]

Ignored objects

.. riiight ..
ok i didnt think of that one. By the time i run into .. it? .. him? i would already be down to DL98 and my ignore list is huge, so possibly this was related to the floor being occupied.

[Sky]

Normal Qs do not cast every turn, so that is expected. Master and Emperor Qs do, so there should be no missed turns, except those dictated by lower speed or lack of room.
Edit: OK, I did a rough calculation. With my current get-up I do 505 damage with Trident of Ulmo against animals (and evil with a spell.) With both blessing and heroism, I do 515. Further, against Greater Titan (picked to represent my current DL) I do 25 more damage with the buffing spells cast. That is 4.2 more damage per blow, so yes, the estimate of 50% is way off. It is closer to 25%. But that is for a Paladin. For a mage, it would be closer to +30 damage, or +8 per blow. That *is* getting close to 50%, and if for some reason I wanted to melee Morgoth, it'd be more.

.. i think something is off with this post.

btw, i am talking specifically about the unique, Quulztzupp or whatever.

[Pete Mack]

Yes it's in the wrong thread. My bad.