Orcish liquor stuns with prot stunning?

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  • Bogatyr
    Knight
    • Feb 2014
    • 525

    Orcish liquor stuns with prot stunning?

    Got a nice artifact Phial with prot stunning (yay), decided to try it out on a swig of orcish liquor....and ended up stunned. I could imagine that food stunning is different than attack stunning, but....seems not quite right.

    Vanilla 4.2.3-199-(etc).
  • Gwarl
    Administrator
    • Jan 2017
    • 1025

    #2
    Since I assume you're playing Sil, protection vs stun improves your saving throw against stun significantly but doesn't grant immunity

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    • backwardsEric
      Knight
      • Aug 2019
      • 527

      #3
      Orcish Liquor (and mushrooms of Terror and Stoneskin) use TIMED_SET rather than TIMED_INC. TIMED_SET bypasses any check for a resistance to the effect. I don't know if that's intentional. As is, it could give Orcish Liquor a niche use for reducing the amount of stunning to 3 - 6, but there's many other items that'll completely cure stunning.

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      • Nick
        Vanilla maintainer
        • Apr 2007
        • 9637

        #4
        It is intentional, and backwardsEric's point about reducing stunning was part of the design. Source for the design is The Uruk-hai chapter of The Two Towers.
        One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
        In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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        • Bogatyr
          Knight
          • Feb 2014
          • 525

          #5
          Originally posted by Gwarl
          Since I assume you're playing Sil, protection vs stun improves your saving throw against stun significantly but doesn't grant immunity
          No, this is Vanilla Angband

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          • Bogatyr
            Knight
            • Feb 2014
            • 525

            #6
            Originally posted by Nick
            It is intentional, and backwardsEric's point about reducing stunning was part of the design. Source for the design is The Uruk-hai chapter of The Two Towers.
            Thanks for the clarification. Another question along somewhat similar vein -- what is the result of simultaneously wearing an amulet of teleportation together with an item cursed with teleport-prevention?

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            • Estie
              Veteran
              • Apr 2008
              • 2347

              #7
              The only special items Merry and Pippin had were blades of Westernesse and cloaks of stealth neither of which can have prot stun. So you cant deduce from there that prot stun is ineffective against orcish liquor.

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              • backwardsEric
                Knight
                • Aug 2019
                • 527

                #8
                Originally posted by Bogatyr
                Thanks for the clarification. Another question along somewhat similar vein -- what is the result of simultaneously wearing an amulet of teleportation together with an item cursed with teleport-prevention?
                The teleportation-prevention curse prevents the random teleportation from working.

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