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  • sffp
    Swordsman
    • Apr 2020
    • 434

    No tel levels

    Not sure I'm such a big fan.

    Just got killed in one after I dropped down into a No-tel level in the middle of a pack of gravity hounds.

    Then there are cases where there's a ridiculously hard pit of monsters between where you are and where the stairs are.
  • Grotug
    Veteran
    • Nov 2013
    • 1637

    #2
    I encountered this level recently and didn't see any reason for me to participate on it so I Word of Recalled.
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    • sffp
      Swordsman
      • Apr 2020
      • 434

      #3
      Yeah - I've been playing in masochist mode
      So straight ironman rules, no going up at all with a fragile hobbit nec.

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      • Jay
        Adept
        • Dec 2011
        • 104

        #4
        I just came here to report this as a bug. So there are no tel levels on purpose now? I was frantically checking all my gear to make sure I wasn't wearing something cursed.

        Is there some sort of in-game notification that I missed? Because it sucks to discover that you're on a no tel level when you're trying to teleport out of a bad situation.
        Oh you icky things, don't you know you're driving your mamas and papas insane…

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        • backwardsEric
          Knight
          • Aug 2019
          • 527

          #5
          Originally posted by Jay
          I just came here to report this as a bug. So there are no tel levels on purpose now? I was frantically checking all my gear to make sure I wasn't wearing something cursed.

          Is there some sort of in-game notification that I missed?
          Gauntlet levels (cavern on one side with the up stairs, cavern on the other side with down stairs, and joined by a labyrinth in the middle) have the portions with the up stairs and labyrinth marked so player teleportation is forbidden. There's no notification in game for those levels, but I believe that has been suggested as a way to make them less of a surprise.

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          • Jay
            Adept
            • Dec 2011
            • 104

            #6
            Originally posted by backwardsEric
            Gauntlet levels (cavern on one side with the up stairs, cavern on the other side with down stairs, and joined by a labyrinth in the middle) have the portions with the up stairs and labyrinth marked so player teleportation is forbidden. There's no notification in game for those levels, but I believe that has been suggested as a way to make them less of a surprise.
            That makes sense — I've come across one of those levels since my first post and had the same experience.

            I can see where a level like that would be a significant hindrance to playing an ironman game. Maybe "include gauntlet levels y/n" could be a user setup option? Or dump them entirely.
            Oh you icky things, don't you know you're driving your mamas and papas insane…

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            • Thraalbee
              Knight
              • Sep 2010
              • 707

              #7
              I only do ironman except comps and don't mind the added difficulty from this. I was surprised the first time though and a warning of sorts would be ok but not required.

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              • wobbly
                Prophet
                • May 2012
                • 2631

                #8
                I don't have a strong opinion on this, I'll just give 2 comments:

                It's very unclear why teleport is failing, even after the fail message.
                It's hard to spot the difference between gauntlet levels and caverns.

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                • Nick
                  Vanilla maintainer
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9637

                  #9
                  If you don't like gauntlet levels, you can just set the "alloc" value for them in dungeon_profile.txt to 0, then they will never appear.
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