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  • Nick
    Vanilla maintainer
    • Apr 2007
    • 9634

    Originally posted by Ingwe Ingweron
    If randarts, would we all have the same start file and randart file for the comp? I know for the past year or so, comps have foregone the start file that used to be integral to the experience, but without it the @s in the competition aren't really comparable.
    I would supply a starting savefile and encourage people to use it; that said, there's also been a push to encourage playing the comp on angband.live, which doesn't allow using the starting file.

    So, kind of?
    One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
    In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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    • Estie
      Veteran
      • Apr 2008
      • 2347

      Starting save file plus ranadart file should work fine ?

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      • Ingwe Ingweron
        Veteran
        • Jan 2009
        • 2129

        Originally posted by Nick
        I would supply a starting savefile and encourage people to use it; that said, there's also been a push to encourage playing the comp on angband.live, which doesn't allow using the starting file.

        So, kind of?
        Yeah, for start files on angband.live, Gwarl used to have to make a separate angband entry just for the comp. Though having one dedicated comp entry on angband.live might not be a bad idea, if it were easy to do.
        “We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see.”
        ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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        • malcontent
          Adept
          • Jul 2019
          • 166

          Originally posted by Ingwe Ingweron
          Yeah, for start files on angband.live, Gwarl used to have to make a separate angband entry just for the comp. Though having one dedicated comp entry on angband.live might not be a bad idea, if it were easy to do.
          I haven't tried angband.live with 4.2.4 much - is it still pretty laggy for US west coast US folks?

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          • malcontent
            Adept
            • Jul 2019
            • 166

            Originally posted by Nick
            I've had a suggestion to have a pair of successive competitions, 3.5.1 and 4.2.4, with the same race/class, point being to compare changes pre- and post-restructure.

            Good idea? I'm thinking priest, maybe Dunadan.
            I like the idea, except for the priest part. Is the feeling that a priest would better show the differences between the versions?

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            • Nick
              Vanilla maintainer
              • Apr 2007
              • 9634

              Originally posted by malcontent
              I like the idea, except for the priest part. Is the feeling that a priest would better show the differences between the versions?
              Yes, the general idea is to get a class that doesn't play too differently between the versions (so mage and ranger had big changes, for example), but still had spellcasting (so not a warrior). Priest seemed to fit the bill best, and we haven't had one for a while.
              One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
              In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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              • malcontent
                Adept
                • Jul 2019
                • 166

                Originally posted by Nick
                Yes, the general idea is to get a class that doesn't play too differently between the versions (so mage and ranger had big changes, for example), but still had spellcasting (so not a warrior). Priest seemed to fit the bill best, and we haven't had one for a while.
                OK, I'm game

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                • Nick
                  Vanilla maintainer
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9634

                  Originally posted by clouded
                  Can we have a Touhou Kattebatan comp next?
                  Can someone do a savefile for this?
                  One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                  In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                  • Cryomaniac
                    Swordsman
                    • Jan 2022
                    • 283

                    I can think of something; shouldn't we need a separate ladder first, though?

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                    • Nick
                      Vanilla maintainer
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9634

                      Originally posted by Cryomaniac
                      I can think of something; shouldn't we need a separate ladder first, though?
                      Good point.
                      One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                      In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                      • Cryomaniac
                        Swordsman
                        • Jan 2022
                        • 283

                        pav is the ladder maintainer, right?

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                        • Nick
                          Vanilla maintainer
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 9634

                          Originally posted by Cryomaniac
                          pav is the ladder maintainer, right?
                          Yep, I've emailed him.
                          One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                          In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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                          • clouded
                            Swordsman
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 268

                            Originally posted by Nick
                            Can someone do a savefile for this?
                            The game has score modifiers for everything so perhaps an anything goes competition could be fun, see how the score system works out. Cryomaniac can suggest some newbie friendly options to put in the description.

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                            • Cryomaniac
                              Swordsman
                              • Jan 2022
                              • 283

                              The most 'newbie friendly' options would be hybrid classes that can perform well in melee and have some support abilities.

                              If you're using unique classes, that's Yuuka, Aya, Eiki, Toyosatomimi, Mayumi, Keiki, Momoyo, Yorihime + some others. If you're using standard race/class combos, Celestials/Shinigami/Great-Youkai have excellent racial bonuses, while Magic-Knights/Shugenja are good at melee and can study magic well, and Mindcrafters still have their 'toolbox' set of abilties with decent melee as well.

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                              • Nick
                                Vanilla maintainer
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 9634

                                OK, there's a ladder now. Somebody should:
                                1. Try submitting a dump and
                                2. Prepare a savefile
                                One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
                                In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

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