Coffee-band containment thread

[wobbly]

Good now I can post as much as I like without feeling like a jerk.

Coffee-band will mix the ethos of NPP(they'll be my pet peeves),Minimal(a hidden gem) & Sil(I'll grab the low hanging stuff). Honestly I'm happy with Sil being Sil and angband being angband.

First 15 levels small. Screen sized small. A no-teleport zone. Mages will keep phase, the scroll will exist but I want to shove most downwards.
Guardians: Moria Balrog, Sauron, an orc captain (which?), Glaurang (saw just the level for him). Old lvl 1-5 spread over 15 smalls

There will also be coffee.

[Carnivean]

There will also be coffee.

Is coffee +1 speed for 50 turns and -2 speed for 10 turns unless you have another? Also, -5 to accuracy if you stack more than 3?

[wobbly]

Let's just say the game lost something when super heroism vanished.

gnome, kobold merge - Stoors?
All elves merge
Dwarf
Half troll becomes ent, dwarf takes loud basher
Hobbit
What do with rest?

Fighter/Paladin
Rogue/Ranger
Mage/Priest

[wobbly]

What's a dagger other then a multiplier. 1d2. 1d5 thancs. Pretty sure I can do accuracy & weight crits by putting weight in the calc twice. Fix low str range for 1d2 dagger

[Derakon]

So a dagger is only going to be about 50% better than punching things?

[wobbly]

Fists have higher weight & are hard to enchant right? Ent might get an +dam bonus to fists then. Problems can be features.

4th class. Unarmed

[Derakon]

I think fists count as weight 0 (or weight 0.1) for purposes of calculating blows, in Vanilla anyway. Certainly I've had surprising success taking a warrior into the dungeon unarmed and punching things. Not so much due to the 1d1 damage dice as due to the STR-based damage bonus. 3 blows per round with a +3 (or was it +4?) damage bonus is pretty decent in the early game.

The Zangband-derived variants (including PosChengband et al) have a Monk class that, as it levels, gets various special unarmed attacks that have better damage dice. E.g. their punch does 1d3, then they get a 1d6 kick, a 2d4 headbutt, etc. Those numbers are probably wrong, but you get the idea. The actual attack they use on any given blow is randomly-selected from the ones they have unlocked, weighted slightly towards the higher end.

[wobbly]

I've played the monk, I suspect O-style druid will be easier to code. I'll absorb the feature branch druid & twiddle.
Edit: Looked at FCPBs monk. What's sane looking coding doing in this variant? I'll steal the Z-ish parts for the druid. The rest is.. monks have complicated mechanics. Don't like knees & elbows for Ents though, like presumably they still have joints (or supple branch bits) but I've never imagined them as the most joint-y creatures.

[Gwarl]

IMO drop the super-races, just have elves and men. They might get some play then.

[wobbly]

Hmm, if I absorb all humans into Beorning it'll have an excuse for not being a 0 stat race & can sit in the half-orcs old spot. The new gnome/kobold will be at halfling hps/melee & halflings are losing the casting stats so elf might be the go to for hps on a mage.

[wobbly]

So my only remaining priest is now a warrior which is as good as any excuse to make int/wis 2 mage stats. So 2 hobbit races 1 each? And elves both?

[wobbly]

Hmm how many levels of OOD monster is normal to account for? Same with items.

Working through the monster list/level gen (I'll do these together) & I'm trying to work out how to get orcs and the Balrog both in Moria. The last V orc is Azog at dlvl 23, the balrog is dlvl 50 (which I'd rather not move) & I need to squeeze enough powering up between the 2. Without making Moria stretch the whole of dlvl 16-50. An orc unique is probably enough as they come with orc bands

[Gwarl]

Azog was level 23 in poschengband, my orcs are now rather tougher and go up to 35 with incremental speed boosts, more ac, more hp and stun attacks.

I think it works okay in keeping orcs relevant for more of the game but my orc-summoning warlords probably have a lot to do with that.

I think +0 stats human has its place?

[Antoine]

Minimal(a hidden gem)

It's not supposed to be hidden!

A.

[wobbly]

It's not supposed to be hidden!

A.

Unfortunately it's not V or a PCB-like....

Some counts. Around 87 V monsters in the 1st 5 levels. Around 61 Sil-q in the first 15 levels. Sils lvl 1 list is hilarious. There are 2. So if you tried for that theme it would be a V-sized level of just brown Cs.

I'm going to try and hit in-between but with more colour. May as well if I've got the early level sizes to do it.