Frot (HT Paladin) DAR

[Nick]

There are, and they start at +28 speed, or maybe +27, I forget.

+27 is the first value that doesn't get you extra energy

Nick went and moved the energy table so I can't find and link it. *shakes fist*

To be fair, I moved pretty much everything

It's in game-world.c now.

[chknflyrice]

OK sweet I was sitting at 37 speed but swapped a ring for +15 damage and it brought me right to +27.

[Derakon]

@anyone that knows,

are there diminishing returns on speed? and if so where does it start?

There are, and they start at +28 speed, or maybe +27, I forget. Nick went and moved the energy table so I can't find and link it. *shakes fist*

[chknflyrice]

@anyone that knows,

are there diminishing returns on speed? and if so where does it start?

[chknflyrice]

Patience and a lot of hoping and I finally got a GV.... and its a checkerboard.
It only took 92 DL to get there.

[chknflyrice]

I guess my point was more that you should be perfectly happy to go without Hold Life. I'd say 50 AC is better than HL, for example. Experience is cheap and most monsters that drain experience are either fragile or not worth fighting at all.

Its funny that you mention it. I was so worried about getting those resists and hold life that I didn't even notice I didn't have chaos..... and then realize that I didn't have any free action.... while I was fighting Ungolint. Need to slow down. Making some rookie mistakes on a great @.

[Derakon]

I guess my point was more that you should be perfectly happy to go without Hold Life. I'd say 50 AC is better than HL, for example. Experience is cheap and most monsters that drain experience are either fragile or not worth fighting at all.

[chknflyrice]

rChaos is waaaay more important than Hold Life. Just saying.

Yes it is and I'm not really sure how I didn't notice that I didn't have it until now. I have killed a couple of CW and I don't think I have ever hallucinated.

[Derakon]

rChaos is waaaay more important than Hold Life. Just saying.

[chknflyrice]

Just hit a pretty decent power spike. I had all res except (somehow) lite, dark, and nexus but at the expense of a fairly low AC (136). Problem is that my res con, des, hold str dex and con, and my hold life are in my g and i slots with an artifact LSM and a SMS of Preservation. Thanks to RNG I just picked up a really great artifact SMS that covers both pieces and now I'm free to get some heavy armor in my g slot but I am going to lose my HL so i don't know if its worth it to equip it and carry the other shield as a stat swap or not. I have a rod of restoration so the exp loss is not a problem but I am in the 70s DL and those undead hurt. The light artifact weapons I found early are starting to hit their damage fall off so a heavy weapon would be appreciated but I have natural +30 speed and a bow with haste on it that kinda makes up for it. Back at the town now sorting and restocking then I'm going to read this DD and see if i cant get a checkerboard vault (haven't been in a single GV yet this game).

And there's the answer. Artifact ammy that gives me HL and chaos (I was missing it but I didn't mention it before) that I can switch with my WM for a loss of only 20 damage pt.

[chknflyrice]

I really don't know whats happening in this game atm. I have fallen through 3 trap doors from a 8-9, down to a 9-9, to a 7-9, to another 9-9. Angband really really wants me to take something from it.

[chknflyrice]

Down in the 40s now and I was just getting ready to say something about how I cant get any armor (was still sitting a 46 AC!) and RNG comes through. LSM of res, mith gaunt of power +4, and an elven cotm. Feeling pretty good about the @ atm. Doing 300 pt with the whip and I have found a lot of dex and str potions.

Finally found a rod of TD and..... its gone. Damn hounds took it from me not even 2 squares from where I picked it up.

[chknflyrice]

New @ and I'm paying my fav HT warrior and I just picked up a special whip at DL4 with a cool 2d3 (+8+28) <+1> str and attack speed. WOW.

I can literally kill almost anything for the next 15 levels with one turn. Down periscope because we are diving hard.

[chknflyrice]

I've seen him 3 times since my last post in this thread and he still is dropping things I leave on the ground; even when I fight him before entering the dungeon for the first time.

He just dropped me a rapier of venom (+6+9) at level one.

[chknflyrice]

Clearing a greater(?) vault on DL47 8-9 feeling.
Starting out I can see there is no real way that I can do this. I'm lvl31 doing 130ish a round with slays on Til, +3 speed from the weapon, and that's about it. Got a few CCW and healings but a lot of PD and TS but no TO. There are a few unidentified rods and wands around the level so I hope that at least one is a TO. None are but I did manage to get more healing. So I think "screw it" the vault is separated into 6 different sections by walls and the entrance is not guarded by anything too dangerous. Maybe I get lucky and there are some good items in 2 particular cavities I can get into. Kite a dreadmaster around for a bit he comes through the wall bringing a ton of goodies with him but nothing that is useful. The next cavern is guarded by some random mobs and a master lich which is going to be a big problem. Tunnel in and, ha, he blinks. Perfect. And oh look, 2 wands of TO. Clear the mobs and boots of Thror. This is going way better than expected (honestly I thought I was suicide but w/e) and now I can open the other sections and TO the dangerous stuff out. There is a BOC that the dread wouldn't pick up and I really want it but its guarded by a GWOB which I have no chance against. Tunnel through he steps up. Failed. Failed. Ok so this isn't a problem yet I'll just TS out heal and go back. Failed. Failed. Failed. Dead.

I was so pissed that I almost said f that and loaded my last save. AGHHHHHH