LCC4 progress

[myshkin]

Thanks to both of you for taking the time to analyze my dump. I am on hold so far as playing goes until I better understand what is available in the way of artifact weapons versus monsters. To begin on that (rather than serendipitous unplanned gear shuffling) I spent the past twelve hours creating weapons and monsters spoiler files which are attached. Comments are welcome, but right now I am going to sleep!

Yikes. That's dedication. Unfortunately, it looks as if the spoiler files you're using are not quite accurate. Most of your information is correct, but the drops have all been redone. Also, for non-uniques, in many cases the HP information you have is off. For example, Great Wyrms of Many Colours now have a normal distribution of HP with mean 5000 and standard deviation 626.

You may want to start a character in a separate savefile and enter wizard mode with CTRL-a. After you acknowledge the warning question, you should be able to press " to generate spoilers. These derive from the data files that your version of the game uses, and so will be up to date. Make sure you don't do this with your current character, or it will be marked as a cheater and will not get registered in the high-score list.

Alternately, you can parse the files in the lib/edit directory.

[LCC]

I could not sleep, so I looked over the situation. I agree with you Pete on the following :
1) Keep Theoden for later.
2) Sell rod curing next slot
3) Then sell Glamdring.
4) Then sell Arvedui.
5) Then sell Rhohirrim.
6) Then sell Thalkettoth.
That is five slots, which should last me a couple or three days of artifact acquisition...

I disagree regarding that pick's usefulness. I use it to tunnel a whole LOT. It is MUCH better than walking or taking a chance on portal. Also I almost always tunnel into a pit to avoid having to fight 20 or 30 turns down a hallway to reach the doorway. I am having trouble getting enough recharge scrolls that it is simply not practical to use wands of stone to mud at one scroll per three squares tunneled. So I strongly disagree with you, and will continue to carry it...

[LCC]

Level 80 got Holy Infusions from an ogre, dropped rods of disarming. Level 81 was trash. Level 82 was trash. Level 83 was a small vault with amulet of Carlammas (stashed) and a troll pit which yielded a better amulet of weapon-mastery. Recalled to stash Carlammas, sold rod of curing.
Level 83 had a small vault with a ring speed +7 and an orc pit which yielded lochaber axe Mundwine, dropped rod of recall since I have prayer. Recalled and stashed Sting, sold broad sword Glamdring.
Level 83 had a vault with two !CON and a !WIS where I killed Adunaphel and got another ring speed +7. Recalled to sell loot.
Level 83 had a Mace of Disruption (defender) just lying on the floor and a troll pit where I got dagger Nimthanc (sold). Recalled to stash my venerable but no longer needed BAoBS since the MoD has regeneration. Sold CM Arvedui for the slot. HP is reduced until I get equipment to increase CON.
Stats are : speed +15 burden 152%, HP637, SP330, AC156 with prayer, str 18/87, int 18/30 (temporarily 18/20), wis 18/*** (224), dex 18/150, con 18/195, chr 18/197, hitting stats : undead MoD 3@95.5, demons Mundwine 4@68.5, dragons Crisdurian 4@66, evil Mundwine 4@55, animals Mundwine 4@55, Orcs-Trolls-Giants Crisdurian 4@66, electricty vulnerable Taratol 4@47.5, acid vulnerable pick 4@43, and all else Crisdurian 4@42. Shooting 1@270 enchanet ammo. Ready to recall @1006268 turns with 7717 killed. Character dump is attached.

http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=9142

[LCC]

Level 83 had a treasure room with the steel helm of Hammerhand. Recalled and sold MBA Rhohirrim for slot.
Level 83 was trash, but no nearby stairs down so I recalled.
Level 83 had an orc pit which yielded the caestus of Fingolfin! Unfortunately I need the STR of Cambeleg for four blows, so I stashed Fingolfin, selling LSM Thalkettoth for the slot.
Level 83 I killed a great wyrm of perplexity and got the Arkenstone of Thrain (worn and sold phial of Galadriel).
Level 83 I killed Atlas the Titan and got the star of Elendil (sold) and gauntlets Paurnen (sold). What a bunch of trash for hard fighting!
Level 83 was trash, so I went to 84 and felt superb. Aha hoorah! I got the APM Soulkeeper from a vault (worn), stashing FPA Isildur and selling LS Celegorm for the slot.
Changed stats : HP700, SP318, AC165 with prayer, potions int 18/68, con 18/208, chr 18/199. I now have all resists covered except sound and shards. Ready to recall @1016185 turns with 8069 killed, including 34 of 78 unique monsters seen. Only 664 experience to go for clvl 43. Character dump is attached.

http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=9142

[LCC]

Promoted clvl 43 on dlvl 84 @1016600 turns. Went to dlvl 85 and found ring Nenya on the floor by the stairs - wore that! Got potions of experience and life from a giant pit, so I recalled to stash life. Sold extra ring of speed for a slot.
Dlvl 85 was trash. Dlvl 86 had an orc pit, got the rapier Careth Asdriag (sold).
Dlvl 86 got a potion of restore mana, went down. Dlvl 87 had a giant pit, got a rod identify. Dlvl 88 had a potion CHR to max. Dlvl 89 had a giant pit, got the boots of Wormtongue (dropped). Also got seeker bolts of holy might hurrah! Dlvl 90 was trash, recalled to check shops. Sold cap Thranduil to wear a crown of might from armor shop. Stashed Crisdurian and sold amulet Carlammas for slot.
Stats now : HP720, SP323, AC184 with prayer, speed +18 without haste at burden of 149%, str 18/137, int 18/68, wis 18/*** (224), dex 18/200, con 18/208, chr 18/*** (220), hitting at : undead mace disruption 4@107.5, demons Mundwine 4@80.5, dragons Taratol 4@74.5, animals and evil Mundwine 4@67, all else mace disruption 4@62.5, shooting 1@ evil 470 - demons and undead 705 - normal 235. Ready to recall @1024792 turns with 8620 killed including 34/81 unique seen. Of the monsters killed 79% are the following : canines 298, dragons 420, giants/ogres 793, insects 352, men 635, orcs 2325, trolls 1494, hounds 527. Identified all EXCEPT the following :rings 5, amulets 5, potions 14 including augmentation - lousy luck, scrolls 2, wands 2, staffs 3, rods 2, mushrooms 6. Character dump is attached.

http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=9142

[Pete Mack]

Recommendation: don't bother selling stuff--you can't possibly use all your gold. Save slots for genuinely valuable stuff like supplies and swaps.

If you must sell stuff, stick to extra dungeon Priest books--they don't take inventory space, and you can't use anything from the Temple anyway.

[Pete Mack]

Selling Carlammas is iffy--there are only two Amulets that give CON. The other is Necklace of Dwarves for +3 STR and CON. If you find that, definitely don't sell it. It's one of the top amulets for full spell-casters.

[LCC]

Found rapier Forasgil on dlvl 90 (sold). Promoted clvl 44 on dlvl 92 @1027564 turns. In a vault on dlvl 92 found the SM shield of Thorin (stashed and sold Balli), cutlass Gondricam (sold), and a blade of chaos of *slay dragon* which I carry. Started scumming 91-92 for artifacts and end game potions.
Killed Azriel on dlvl 92. Found broad sword Aeglin (sold) on dlvl 92. Killed a great ice wyrm on dlvl 92 and got SS boots of Thror (worn and sold boots of speed). Killed Thuringwethil on dlvl 92 at an undead pit. Promoted clvl 45 on dlvl 92 @1039599 turns.
Stat changes : HP755, SP333, AC195 with prayer, speed +16 without haste at burden 163%, str 18/99->169, int 18/81->111, wis 18/100->*** (230), dex 18/100->200, con 18/100->*** (240), chr 18/100->*** (220), social from role model to feared, hitting 3 more per blow all weapons, the new blade of chaos is 4@129 versus dragons, mace Taratol carried only for immunity to lightning, pick carried only for tunneling. Ready to recall @1040267 turns with 9235 killed. Character dump is attached.

http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=9142

[LCC]

Dlvl 92 killed Waldern, Baphomet, and Akhorahil. In a granite treasure vault found ring of Barahir (sold), pike Til-i-arc (sold), and cloak Thorongil (sold).
Next dlvl 92 had a giant pit where I got 31 seeker bolts holy might even better than what I had (stashed and sold Crisdurian for slot). Also upgraded my ring of speed from +10 to +11. Also got short bow of Amras (sold).
Next dlvl 92 had a granite treasure vault with HL armor Himring. Upon recall I swapped Himring for Soulkeeper (stashed), amulet weapon-mastery for trickery, SM shield Thorin for mithril shield Gil-galad, and iron helm Holhenneth for the crown of might (sold). Net change is that I lost resist nexus (small risk) and some stealth, but gained immunity to acid and resist sound. I hit +9 more per blow all weapons. Stats now HP755, SP361, AC149 with prayer, speed +15 without haste at burden 146%, str 18/200, int 18/131, wis 18/200 (prayers okay), dex 18/140, con 18/*** (230), chr 18/170 (not sustained). Ready to recall @1046023 turns with 9559 killed including 39 of 86 unique seen. Character dump is attached.

http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=9142

[Pete Mack]

Don't waste those Bolts of Holy Might on anything other than Morgoth. What a glorious pair of finds! (Way better than nearly any artifact.)

470-550 dam/turn is HUGE for a priest. And with a single shot!

[LCC]

Don't waste those Bolts of Holy Might on anything other than Morgoth. What a glorious pair of finds! (Way better than nearly any artifact.)

470-550 dam/turn is HUGE for a priest. And with a single shot!

I was surprised the first time that I got them. I used them on unique undeads. Then the second set came which was even better, and I stashed THEM for Morgoth...

Recalled to dlvl 92 and got boots of speed +7 from a troll pit. Killed Harowen the black hand, so worries about stealing are over. Killed Smaug and got a ring of speed +13. Killed Feagwath and got LM shield Anarion (dropped), and balance dragon scale mail BDSM. Recalled and sold the ring damage +15 and amulet wisdom +6 to get slots for stashing the BDSM and boots speed +7. Bought out the temple until I had a stack of 99 potions heroism, then sold back the junk egos and extra dungeon books. Quaffed the entire stack of heroism. I will be a hero for a LONG time now!

Recalled to dlvl 92, got main gauche Azaghal (sold) and a potion experience from a troll pit. Promoted by potion @1050355 turns. Killed Mim and got the ring of power Narya (immunity fire). Recalled and sold all the dungeon books from home, freeing up three slots. Wore Narya and stashed the ring speed +13. Picked up boots speed +7 and stashed Thror. Stashed the amulet trickery. Stashed the extra staff banishment.

Stats now : HP777, SP369, AC138 with prayer (need the cloak Colluin!), speed only +10 without haste at burden 131% (need Cubragol or Feanor!), str 18/180, int 18/141, wis 18/210, dex 18/150, con 18/210, chr 18/180, immune to acid (Thorin), fire (Narya), cold (Nenya), and lightning when wielding Taratol. The only resists not covered are shards and nexus. Hitting stats : undead 4@123.5 mace of disruption (MoD), dragons 4@142 blade of chaos, demons 4@96.5 and animals/evil 4@83 Mundwine, all else 4@78.5 MoD. Carrying mace Taratol just for immunity to lightning, and pick for tunneling. Ready to recall @1051454 turns with 9823 killed including 43/87 unique seen. Character dump is attached.

http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=9142

[Pete Mack]

With BoS +7, and a RoS +13, your current bow is almost as good as Cubragol. Usual technique is to wear one elven ring, and keep the other(s) as a swap, depending on whether you need IM_Cold or IM_Fire (or IM_Elec, if you get lucky.)

[LCC]

On dlvl 92 killed Huan (junk), Cantoras yielded katana Aglarang (sold) and zweihander Mormegil (dropped), Polyphemus yielded boots of speed +10 (worn), and a nightcrawler yielded JE crown of Numenor (stashed and sold beaked axe Theoden).
Next dlvl 92 killed Fundin Bluecloak and got seeker bolts of venom. Promoted clvl 47 @1056452 turns. A very promising looking vault yielded only a potion of life and dagger Belangil (sold).
Third dlvl 92 killed Ren and got amulet of Ingwe (stashed). The orc escorts of Lagduf yielded GREAT HAMMER OF AULE (wielded!) and seeker bolts of slay dragon. A vault yielded the pick of Erebor (carried and dropped pick of earthquakes), iron helm of Dor-Lomin (stashed), and gauntlets Camlost (dropped).
I sold off my trusty mace of disruption, chaos blade slay dragon, and stashed Mundwine, amulet Ingwe, and Dor-Lomin. To free up slots I picked up the extra staff of banishment, ring of speed +13, and amulet of trickery.

Stats now : HP797, SP377, AC146 with prayer, speed +15 without haste at 99% burden. Now hitting 4 blows at : undead 116 (-7.5), demons 116 (+19.5), dragons 152 (+10), evil 98 (+15), acid vulnerable 116, normal 80 (+1.5), no special for animals. Carrying pick Erebor for tunneling and mace Taratol for immunity to lightning. I STILL need crossbow Cubragol for speed and cloak Colluin for double resist poison before I go hunting Ancalagon. Ready to recall @1061447 turns with 10184 killed, including 48/87 unique seen. I have found 72 artifacts now. Character dump is attached.

http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=9142

Edit : I am desperate for home space. Any comments regarding what to sell are welcome. I can pick up the staffs of healing and magi, then sell helm Hammerhand (edit2), then Mundwine, then the Palantir of Westernesse. What else???

[Pete Mack]

Sting, Mundwine, Dungeon prayer books. Town prayer books (you have Narya!)

[LCC]

Sting, Mundwine, Dungeon prayer books. Town prayer books (you have Narya!)

Thanks Pete! SOLD : Sting, Mundwine, Hammerhand, and Pick of Erebor - Aule is good tunneler.

Just one trip to dlvl 92 this time. A blue dragon pit gave metal cap Celebrimbor (see below) and two handed great flail Thunderfist (carried for zap electricity and fire). Killed Khamul, Lernaean Hydra, Ji Andur Dawndeath, Shelob (gave BS Orcrist dropped), Draugluin, and Lorgan. Promoted to clvl 48 @1064638 turns. Recalled and swapped Holhenneth (stashed) for Celebrimbor, amulet of weaponmastery (stashed) for trickery, and armor Himring (stashed) for Soulkeeper. I now resist everything, with immunity to acid, fire, cold, and (wielding Taratol) lightning. Stats now : HP812, SP365, AC194 with prayer, speed +16 without haste at burden 118%, hitting 7 less all weapons, magic device legendary (was heroic), str 18/160, int 18/158, wis 18/*** (230), dex 18/210, con 18/*** (230), chr 18/210. I STILL need cloak Colluin and crossbow Cubragol. Almost ready to recall @1066044 turns with 10354 killed, including 54/88 unique seen. Character dump is attached.

http://angband.oook.cz/ladder-show.php?id=9142