The Angband Ladder: Ebony Glass, Elf Warrior by Nivim

  [Angband 4.0.5 Character Dump]

 Name   Ebony Glass  Age            104          Self  RB  CB  EB   Best
 Race   Elf          Height        4'5"   STR! 18/100  -1  +3 +11 18/***
 Class  Warrior      Weight     6st 9lb   INT! 18/100  +2  -2  +1 18/110
 Title  Lord         Turns used:          WIS! 18/100  -1  -2  +0  18/70
 HP     -64/796      Game        617666   DEX! 18/100  +1  +2 +10 18/***
 SP     0/0          Standard    129521   CON! 18/100  -1  +2  +1 18/120
                     Resting       1593

 Level                 50    Armor     [81,+137]    Saving Throw     79%
 Cur Exp         15536453                           Stealth    Excellent
 Max Exp         15536453    Melee       7d8,+45    Disarming        95%
 Adv Exp         ********    To-hit       96,+57    Magic Devices     66
                             Blows      5.2/turn    Perception   1 in 11
 Gold             1758683                           Searching        47%
 Burden          230.5 lb    Shoot to-dam    +26    Infravision    30 ft
 Overweight       50.6 lb    To-hit       98,+59    Speed             30
 Max Depth   5000' (L100)    Shots        1/turn

 You are one of several children of a Sindarin Ranger.  You have light
 grey eyes, straight brown hair, and a fair complexion.

rAcid:......+...... Nexus:.............
rElec:......+...... Nethr:........+....
rFire:*.....+...... Chaos:+.....+......
rCold:......+...... Disen:+...+.+.+....
rPois:......+...... pFear:....+.......+
rLite:......+.....+ pBlnd:.....+.......
rDark:+.....+...... pConf:......+......
Sound:......+...... pStun:.+...........
Shard:......+...... HLife:........+....

Regen:............. Stea.:......++.....
  ESP:.......+..... Sear.:..........+..
Invis:.....+....... Infra:............+
FrAct:.+..+....++.. Tunn.:+............
Feath:..........+.. Speed:..++.......+!
S.Dig:............. Blows:.............
ImpHP:............. Shots:.............
 Fear:............. Might:.+...........
Aggrv:+............ Light:.....+.......

  [Last Messages]

> The Greater Balrog breathes plasma.
> The Large steel chest burns up!
> The Small iron chest burns up!
> The Wand of Dragon's Breath is unaffected!
> The Scroll of Summon Monster burns up!
> The Ring of Strength is destroyed!
> The Heavy Crossbow burns up!
> The Forest troll screams in pain.
> The Horned Reaper shrugs off the attack.
> The Gelugon shrugs off the attack.
> The Gelugon breathes shards.
> The Potion of Strength shatters!
> The Potion of Constitution shatters!
> You die.
> The Horned Reaper grunts with pain.

Killed by a Gelugon.

  [Character Equipment]

a) the Mace of Disruption 'Deathwreaker' (7d8) (+18,+18) <+6, +4>
     Created by debug option
     +6 strength.
     +4 tunneling.
     Slays undead (powerfully), evil creatures, animals, dragons.
     Branded with fire.
     Provides immunity to fire.
     Provides resistance to dark, chaos, disenchantment.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.
     Aggravates creatures nearby.  
     Combat info:
     5.2 blows/round.
     Average damage/round: 884.7 vs. creatures not resistant to fire,
     1298.6 vs. undead, 677.4 vs. evil creatures, 677.4 vs. animals,
     884.7 vs. dragons, and 470.2 vs. others.
b) a Long Bow of Lothlórien (x5) (+20,+26) <+4, +2>
     Found lying on the floor of a cavern at 4950 feet (level 99)
     +4 dexterity.
     +2 shooting power.
     Provides protection from stunning.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.
     Prevents paralysis.  
c) a Ring of Speed <+11>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 4300 feet (level 86)
     +11 speed.
d) a Ring of Speed <+11>
     Dropped by Polyphemus, the Blind Cyclops at 3550 feet (level 71)
     +11 speed.
e) an Amulet of Weaponmastery (+4,+5) <+3>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 4250 feet (level 85)
     +3 strength.
     Provides resistance to disenchantment.
     Provides protection from fear.
     Sustains strength, constitution.
     Prevents paralysis.  
f) a Lantern of True Sight (14268 turns) <+2>
     Found lying on the floor at 1750 feet (level 35)
     Provides protection from blindness.
     Cannot be harmed by fire.
     Grants the ability to see invisible things.  
     Radius 2 light.
g) Power Dragon Scale Mail of Stealth (-3) [60,+30] <+2>
     Found lying on the floor of a cavern at 4750 feet (level 95)
     +2 stealth.
     Provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, frost, poison gas,
     light, dark, sound, shards, chaos, disenchantment.
     Provides protection from confusion.
h) a Cloak of the Magi [1,+11] <+1, +3>
     Found lying on the floor of a cavern at 3750 feet (level 75)
     +1 intelligence.
     +3 stealth.
     Cannot be harmed by acid.
     Sustains intelligence.
     Grants telepathy.  
i) a Large Metal Shield of Preservation [12,+35]
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 3300 feet (level 66)
     Provides resistance to nether, disenchantment.
     Cannot be harmed by acid.
     Sustains strength, dexterity, constitution.
     Sustains your life force.  
j) an Iron Crown of Might [0,+13] <+2, +1>
     Found lying on the floor of a special room at 4950 feet (level 99)
     +2 strength.
     +2 dexterity.
     +1 constitution.
     Cannot be harmed by acid.
     Sustains strength, dexterity, constitution.
     Prevents paralysis.  
k) a Set of Alchemist's Gloves of Thievery (+8,+2) [0,+14] <+4, +5>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 4900 feet (level 98)
     +4 dexterity.
     +5 searching skill.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.
     Feather Falling.  Prevents paralysis.  
l) a Pair of Mithril Shod Boots of Speed [8,+19] <+10>
     Dropped by Ancalagon the Black at 4600 feet (level 92)
     +10 speed.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.

  [Character Inventory]

a) 6 Potions of Healing
b) 5 Potions of *Healing*
     It can be thrown at creatures with damaging effect.
c) 6 Potions of Life
     It can be thrown at creatures with damaging effect.
d) 2 Potions of Enlightenment
e) 16 Potions of Speed
f) 21 Scrolls of Teleportation
g) 8 Scrolls of Teleport Level
h) 21 Scrolls of Banishment
i) a Scroll of *Destruction*
j) 5 Rods of Detection (3 charging)
     Cannot be harmed by lightning.
k) 3 Rods of Healing (1 charging)
     Cannot be harmed by lightning.
l) 2 Rods of Restoration (1 charging)
     Cannot be harmed by lightning.
m) 5 Rods of Teleport Other
n) 4 Rods of Illumination (1 charging)
o) 4 Rods of Recall
     Cannot be harmed by lightning.
p) 5 Rods of Identify
     Cannot be harmed by lightning.
q) a Rod of Speed (charging)
     Cannot be harmed by lightning.
r) a Staff of Healing (1 charge)
s) 7 Staves of Teleportation (41 charges)
t) a Ring of Constitution <+6>
     +6 constitution.
     Sustains constitution.
u) an Amulet of Trickery <+5, +3, +4, +6>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 4900 feet (level 98)
     +5 dexterity.
     +3 stealth.
     +4 searching skill.
     +6 infravision.
     +3 speed.
     Provides resistance to poison gas, nexus.
     Sustains dexterity.
v) a Cloak of Aman [1,+30] <+3>
     Dropped by a Great Wyrm of Many Colours at 4800 feet (level 96)
     +3 stealth.
     Provides resistance to sound.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.

  [Character Quiver]

0) 34 Mithril Arrows of Wounding (3d4) (+20,+16)
     Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.
     Combat info:
     Hits targets up to 160 feet away.
     Average damage/round: 262.3.
     35% chance of breaking upon contact.

  [Home Inventory]

a) 8 Potions of Healing
b) 6 Potions of *Healing*
     It can be thrown at creatures with damaging effect.
c) 6 Potions of Life
     It can be thrown at creatures with damaging effect.
d) 3 Potions of Restore Life Levels
e) 9 Potions of Speed
f) 18 Scrolls of Phase Door
g) 10 Scrolls of Teleport Level
h) 3 Scrolls of Mass Banishment
i) 9 Scrolls of Recharging
j) a Scroll of Holy Chant
k) 17 Scrolls of *Destruction*
l) a Rod of Restoration
     Cannot be harmed by lightning.
m) a Staff of *Destruction* (7 charges)
n) a Staff of Holiness (5 charges)
o) 2 Staves of Teleportation (16 charges)
p) a Staff of Speed (6 charges)
q) a Ring of Slaying (+18,+5)
     Dropped by an Emperor wight at 2250 feet (level 45)
r) a Ring of See Invisible {ignore}
     Dropped by a Ghoul at 2050 feet (level 41)
     Grants the ability to see invisible things.  
s) Adamantite Plate Mail of Elvenkind (-4) [80,+13] <+1>
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 2450 feet (level 49)
     +1 stealth.
     Provides resistance to acid, lightning, fire, frost, nexus.
     Cannot be harmed by acid.
t) an Iron Crown of Serenity [0,+15]
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 3000 feet (level 60)
     Provides resistance to sound.
     Provides protection from fear, confusion, stunning.
u) an Iron Helm of Regeneration [7,+4]
     Dropped by a Dark elven mage at 1900 feet (level 38)
     Speeds regeneration.  
v) a Steel Helm of Telepathy [9,+17]
     Found lying on the floor in a vault at 4550 feet (level 91)
     Grants telepathy.  
w) a Pair of Iron Shod Boots of Stability [4,+9]
     Found lying on the floor at 2000 feet (level 40)
     Provides resistance to nexus.
     Cannot be harmed by fire.
     Feather Falling.  
x) a Short Bow of Lothlórien (x3) (+20,+22) <+5, +1>
     Bought from a store
     +5 dexterity.
     +1 shooting power.
     Cannot be harmed by acid, fire.
     Slows your metabolism.  Prevents paralysis.  

[Player history]
      Turn   Depth  Note
         0      0'  Began the quest to destroy Morgoth.
         0      0'  Found the Mighty Hammer 'Grond'
         0      0'  Found the Flail 'Totila'
         0      0'  Found the Two-Handed Great Flail 'Thunderfist'
         0      0'  Found the Morning Star 'Bloodspike'
         0      0'  Found the Morning Star 'Firestar'
         0      0'  Found the Mace 'Taratol'
         0      0'  Found the Great Hammer of Aulë
         0      0'  Found the Quarterstaff 'Nar-i-vagil'
         0      0'  Found the Quarterstaff 'Eriril'
         0      0'  Found the Quarterstaff of Olórin
         0      0'  Found the Mace of Disruption 'Deathwreaker'
         0      0'  Found the Whip of Gothmog
         0      0'  Found the Ball-and-Chain of Fundin Bluecloak
       277     50'  Reached level 2
       582    100'  Killed Grip, Farmer Maggot's dog
       582    100'  Reached level 3
       787    100'  Reached level 4
      1417    100'  Killed Fang, Farmer Maggot's dog
      1417    100'  Reached level 5
      1825    150'  Reached level 6
      2358    150'  Reached level 7
      2567    150'  Killed Sméagol
      3181    250'  Reached level 8
      3693    150'  Reached level 9
      4889    200'  Reached level 10
      6484    250'  Reached level 11
      7745    350'  Killed Bullroarer the Hobbit
      8240    350'  Reached level 12
      8896    450'  Killed Wormtongue, Agent of Saruman
      9130    500'  Reached level 13
     10007    550'  Reached level 14
     10145    550'  Reached level 15
     10211    550'  Reached level 16
     10345    550'  Reached level 17
     10700    550'  Reached level 18
     12964    900'  Reached level 19
     13500    950'  Reached level 20
     14336   1000'  Reached level 21
     14555   1000'  Killed Gorbag, the Orc Captain
     15236   1100'  Reached level 22
     15536   1150'  Killed Shagrat, the Orc Captain
     15851   1150'  Reached level 23
     16013   1150'  Killed Lugdush, the Uruk
     16029   1150'  Killed Uglúk, the Uruk
     16147   1150'  Reached level 24
     17354   1200'  Killed Azog, King of the Uruk-Hai
     17354   1200'  Reached level 25
     17365   1200'  Killed Bolg, Son of Azog
     17372   1200'  Killed Grishnákh, the Hill Orc
     17402   1200'  Killed Golfimbul, the Hill Orc Chief
     19599   1500'  Reached level 26
     20065      0'  Killed Farmer Maggot
     20549   1550'  Killed Draebor, the Imp
     20814   1550'  Reached level 27
     21137   1600'  Killed Uldor the Accursed
     21270   1650'  Killed Ibun, Son of Mîm
     21279   1650'  Killed Mîm, Betrayer of Turin
     21284   1650'  Killed Khîm, Son of Mîm
     22614      0'  Reached level 27
     22768   1650'  Reached level 28
     22907   1650'  Killed Nár, the Dwarf
     24206   1700'  Killed Orfax, Son of Boldor
     25359   1850'  Reached level 29
     25390   1850'  Killed Lorgan, Chief of the Easterlings
     25988   1850'  Killed Ulwarth, Son of Ulfang
     25993   1850'  Killed Ulfang the Black
     26240   1850'  Reached level 30
     26512   1850'  Reached level 31
     26514   1850'  Killed The Queen Ant
     26885   1850'  Killed Ulfast, Son of Ulfang
     27741   1850'  Killed Boldor, King of the Yeeks
     28443   1900'  Reached level 32
     28730   1900'  Killed Sangahyando of Umbar
     28734   1900'  Killed Angamaitë of Umbar
     30875   1950'  Killed Lagduf, the Snaga
     31091   1950'  Killed Brodda, the Easterling
     32262   2000'  Reached level 33
     32487   2000'  Reached level 33
     33300   2050'  Reached level 34
     35508   2050'  Reached level 35
     36390   2050'  Killed Bill the Stone Troll
     36398   2050'  Killed Bert the Stone Troll
     36437   2050'  Killed Tom the Stone Troll
     37599   2100'  Killed Castamir the Usurper
     38527   2350'  Reached level 36
     39244   2350'  Reached level 37
     42076   2250'  Killed Medusa, the Gorgon
     42699   2250'  Killed Gorlim, Betrayer of Barahir
     44056   2200'  Killed Vargo, Tyrant of Fire
     44192   2200'  Reached level 38
     44627   2200'  Killed Lokkak, the Ogre Chieftain
     45397   2200'  Killed Rogrog the Black Troll
     46388   2250'  Killed Quaker, Master of Earth
     47582   2250'  Killed Itangast the Fire Drake
     47799   2250'  Killed Smaug the Golden
     50240   2300'  Reached level 39
     50822   2250'  Killed Ren the Unclean
     50847   2250'  Killed Scatha the Worm
     50847   2250'  Reached level 39
     53426   2350'  Killed Akhorahil the Blind
     54435   2400'  Reached level 40
     55274   2450'  Reached level 40
     57924   2600'  Killed Ariel, Queen of Air
     58276   2600'  Killed Kavlax the Many-Headed
     59616   2650'  Reached level 41
     62143   2800'  Killed Dwar, Dog Lord of Waw
     62172   2800'  Killed Ar-Pharazôn the Golden
     62241   2800'  Killed Ji Indur Dawndeath
     62241   2800'  Reached level 42
     62261   2800'  Killed Adunaphel the Quiet
     62336   2800'  Killed The Balrog of Moria
     63355   2950'  Killed Beorn, the Shape-Changer
     63757   2950'  Killed The Lernaean Hydra
     64765   3000'  Killed Eöl, the Dark Elf
     66177   3100'  Killed Ufthak of Cirith Ungol
     66252   3100'  Killed Uvatha the Horseman
     66274   3100'  Killed The Cat Lord
     66274   3100'  Reached level 43
     67551   3150'  Killed Shelob, Spider of Darkness
     68791   3150'  Killed Radagast the Brown
     70807   3150'  Killed Mughash the Kobold Lord
     71156   3150'  Reached level 44
     71462   3150'  Killed Baphomet the Minotaur Lord
     73758   3200'  Reached level 45
     76479   3300'  Killed Saruman of Many Colours
     77408   3300'  Reached level 46
     79142   3250'  Reached level 47
     84007   3450'  Killed Arien, Maia of the Sun
     84992   3500'  Reached level 48
     88079   3550'  Killed The Witch-King of Angmar
     88937   3550'  Killed Polyphemus, the Blind Cyclops
     88937   3550'  Reached level 49
     89177   3550'  Killed Fundin Bluecloak
     89842   3550'  Killed Hoarmurath of Dir
     89850   3550'  Killed Khamûl, the Black Easterling
     90710   3550'  Killed Ungoliant, the Unlight
     91288   3550'  Reached level 50
     91567   3550'  Killed Tselakus, the Dreadlord
     91814   3550'  Killed Feagwath, the Undead Sorcerer
     91940   3550'  Killed Omarax, the Eye Tyrant
     92166   3550'  Killed Glaurung, Father of the Dragons
     93808   3550'  Killed Ossë, Herald of Ulmo
     93920   3550'  Killed Thuringwethil, the Vampire Messenger
     94091   3550'  Killed Qlzqqlzuup, the Emperor Quylthulg
     94348   3550'  Killed Atlas, the Titan
    102768   3850'  Killed Pazuzu, Lord of Air
    104590   3900'  Killed The Phoenix
    107769   4250'  Killed Draugluin, Sire of All Werewolves
    108332   4300'  Killed Carcharoth, the Jaws of Thirst
    109730   4300'  Killed Lungorthin, the Balrog of White Fire
    110098   4300'  Killed Gothmog, the High Captain of Balrogs
    110652   4300'  Killed Huan, Wolfhound of the Valar
    113532   4500'  Killed Maeglin, the Traitor of Gondolin
    114633   4550'  Killed Waldern, King of Water
    115434   4550'  Killed Vecna, the Emperor Lich
    116391   4600'  Killed Ancalagon the Black
    119559   4800'  Killed The Tarrasque
    121703   4950'  Killed Sauron, the Sorcerer
    123732   4900'  Killed The Mouth of Sauron
    126928   4900'  Killed Kronos, Lord of the Titans


  [User interface]

Use the roguelike command keyset             : no  (rogue_like_commands)
Use sound                                    : no  (use_sound)
Show damage player deals to monsters         : yes (show_damage)
Use old target by default                    : yes (use_old_target)
Always pickup items                          : no  (pickup_always)
Always pickup items matching inventory       : yes (pickup_inven)
Show flavors in object descriptions          : no  (show_flavors)
Highlight target with cursor                 : yes (show_target)
Disturb whenever viewable monster moves      : yes (disturb_near)
Show walls as solid blocks                   : no  (solid_walls)
Show walls with shaded background            : no  (hybrid_walls)
Color: Illuminate torchlight in yellow       : no  (view_yellow_light)
Color: Shimmer multi-colored things          : yes (animate_flicker)
Center map continuously                      : yes (center_player)
Color: Show unique monsters in purple        : yes (purple_uniques)
Automatically clear '-more-' prompts         : yes (auto_more)
Color: Player color indicates % hit points   : yes (hp_changes_color)
Allow mouse clicks to move the player        : no  (mouse_movement)
Notify on object recharge                    : yes (notify_recharge)


Randomise the artifacts (except a very few)  : no  (birth_randarts)
Word of Recall has no effect                 : no  (birth_no_recall)
Restrict creation of artifacts               : yes (birth_no_artifacts)
Don't stack objects on the floor             : no  (birth_no_stacking)
Lose artifacts when leaving level            : no  (birth_no_preserve)
Don't generate connected stairs              : yes (birth_no_stairs)
Don't show level feelings                    : no  (birth_no_feelings)
Increase gold drops but disable selling      : yes (birth_no_selling)
Use previous set of randarts                 : yes (birth_keep_randarts)
Start with a kit of useful gear              : no  (birth_start_kit)
Monsters learn from their mistakes           : no  (birth_ai_learn)
Force player descent                         : no  (birth_force_descend)

Posted on 25.6.2016 09:04
Last updated on 4.7.2016 02:27

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On 25.6.2016 09:04 Nivim wrote:
First notable discovery at CL18,DL12; a pair of gloves of agility <+5>. Suddenly I have two blows.
Something like 50 turns later, I read-IDed Deep Descent and that was fine.

DL21 was a weird maze level that came pre-mapped; kinda like some of the fixed levels in nethack.

At DL33-35, I had serious problems without sInv sources. Then I found a lantern-shaped source.

DL39: first Ring of Speed (<+7>).

DL41: first Potion of Experience (CL33->CL34). Also, a bow of Lothlorien <+5>, which with the gloves and a good Mouse ring, provides +14 dex from equipment. I can't tell the difference anywhere between +14 and +10, though, so I'll be wearing a different ring. Also, it grants Free Action, so I can switch out my boots for rNexus.

This time when I fought the unique Stone Trolls they went down in 2-3 rounds each. I am, however, getting to that point in the game again I experienced Sudden Breath, and I don't even have Detection this time.

(This is where I noticed Pete's suggestion on my other character dump and implemented it before posting.)

On 3.7.2016 00:10 Nivim wrote:
Anyway, after noticing that the Monster Oracle Character thing is only going to work for a new save, I decided deep descent sounded like a fine idea, even if that would bring me past where I died last time. The fact that I'm no longer playing a character 'just to put a winner on the ladder, even if it has a terrible turncount' might also have something to do with it.

Had a close call, a Drolem getting four turns in LOS, but then I teleported and starting going up a bit. I began using my Enlightenment potions on every floor so I would have good odds of getting a turn before something breathed on me. This was decently successful, in that I survived my way through some consumables and statpoints until finding a Greater Basilisk, the creature that killed my last character.

I survived that too, mostly by teleporting away, then letting it come around a corner after using potions of Speed and Resist Poison. To spite the precautions, the GB died on the first round of melee because I got a huge crit. Loot from its vault was two potions of constitution and a ring of Speed <+10>. I don't know when speed points start falling off, but +18 seems good.

Back at town, picked up a helmet of telepathy (replacing my regeneration helmet [using an amulet instead]), which should help with Greater Basilisk-like problems, although infamously not Drolems. Also a scroll of Greater Disappointment.

Bokrog dropping my first non-ring poison resistance; a multi-hued dragon scale mail.

Summoned and killed Itangast; who dropped another shortbow of Lothlorien. It has lower numbers, but also confusion resistance, thus HUZZAH.

Bought some boots of speed, so I switched out rNexus for those.

On DL62, I tried fighting Radagast; that went nowhere, so I apparently need 50 points more AC or something. Oh, and apparently probing does not reveal spell list, so you can get a very inaccurate "You know everything about this monster".
After finishing the rest of the level, decided to spend 5 Healing on Radagast anyway.

While I was farming Qlzqqlzuup one of the undead Easterlings dropped a pair of gloves of Thievery that had slaying, dex, AC, and rStumblingIntoSummonedTraps.

Accidentally fell into a fugue state and suddenly I was on DL100 with everything I'd need to win the game except enough healing potions.

On 3.7.2016 05:59 Pete Mack wrote:
You are seriously short on CON. Lose one of those rings, and possibly swap in Trickery for a little more speed. PDSM. Shame you have no Crown of Might or Gloves of Combat. Crown of Might + Gloves of Combat + Dwarven Shield would make RoCON unnecessary.

On 3.7.2016 10:30 Nivim wrote:
I guess Speed is even less valuable than I thought? I kept thinking 10 speed would mean taking 1/4 less damage, which would be more than the 200hp I get from a Con ring. :( I actually found a couple Dwarven Shields, but didn't get them because they were heavy and didn't have rNether.

Oh well! I'll take your advice as best I can.

On 4.7.2016 02:27 Nivim wrote:
I found a Crown of Might fairly quickly, although it's only 1 CON.

Then I died to a surprising amount of demon damage; I had fought similar numbers and composition quite a few times already, but this time they just hit me all at once.

If only I had taken advice better; the lower speed/damage felt annoying so I was going to wear the CON ring upon actually fighting Morgoth.

So my question for next time I play Angband again is; how do you know when a monster can target you? It doesn't seem to follow simple rules of 'when you can see the monster'.

On 4.7.2016 06:15 Pete Mack wrote:

It's the same rules as you have--so if he has a knight's (or extended knight's) move on you, you are screwed. Mostly this is to your benefit, since it lets you get one chance to teleport monsters from out of LOS--if you stay 1 square back around a corner, you are guaranteed a first turn in LOS against speed +10 monsters. (And you can exploit it heavily with archery.)

Once you hit speed > 20, swapping it for CON is almost always the right thing. Speed 30 is definitely a waste-it is only modestly faster than 20, and speed 40 is just barely faster than 30. 800 HP is pretty low for a warrior (or really any character without zero fail) You have to use archery, and carefully chosen fights, since it is only 300HP greater than needing a full heal for a number of oponents.

The bottom line: Having 1000+ CON is a whole lot easier, and less susceptible to risk taking.

On 4.7.2016 06:27 Pete Mack wrote:
Oh, about speed. You can look up the speed numbers in the source file cave-world.c, array extract_energy. This discounts speeds greater than 26; greater than 30, the discount is extreme.
+10 speed is twice as fast as normal speed.
+20 is 50% faster than +10 speed.
+30 speed is only 26% faster than +20 speed.
+40 speed (hasted 30) is only 10.5% faster than +30 (hasted 20).
Note that 1120HP (roughly the HP of a level 50 elf warrior) is nearly 40% more HP than you have. So you are taking great risks AND have a 30% lower ratio of HP/damage.

On 4.7.2016 07:07 Pete Mack wrote:
A final note: Why fight demons at all? Horned reapers have no drop AND trample objects on the floor. Greater balrogs destroy inventory and drain charges...and have no drop. Gelugons have no drop. Most of the nasty demons have no drop at all, and none have large or "good" drops. You want to focus on dragons, undead, and especially vaults.

You were getting literally nothing from that fight, for big risk AND lost consumables.

On 4.7.2016 12:14 Nivim wrote:
Thanks for the information... although I'm not sure it was possible to get over 1000HP with this character; just not enough CON sources.

On the demons; I knew Gelugons didn't have drops, but I thought all the others did; I guess they've just picked up stuff a lot in my games? I had this sense that even if my Healing staff got drained there was a good chance I'd get another from the fight. Perhaps I'm biased from experiencing these demons mostly in vaults.

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