A minimal band

[Antoine]

Post #3 - Core code

I wanted to briefly set out my coding strategy.

I plan to:

• Begin with a current copy of NPP
• Add some minor rules from Quickband (cumulative poison, monsters that heal other monsters, a few things like that)
• Add a 'no terrain' option
• Pass back to the NPP guys for their interest
• Keep a copy and rebrand
• Move to a 50-level dungeon with Sauron on DL49 and Morgoth on DL50 (otherwise new DL X has the same behaviour as old DL 2X)
• Set the following off: terrain, quests, player ghosts, randarts, store services
• Remove ranged traps
• Remove many vaults
• Reduce the max level size
• Remove cursed equipment, but allow 'good' items to have negative to-hit
• Remove egos and jewelery from shops, other than the Black Market
• Proceed with the various content initiatives in my other posts
• Remove some monster summoning spells and some types of pits/nests to reflect changes to monster list
• Remove temp resists from all artifact activations
• Change artifact distributions as follows: min_depth = MAX(min_depth, min_depth + (60-min_depth)/3), rarity = MAX(rarity, rarity + (10-rarity)/2)
• Release a test version and iterate.

[Malak Darkhunter]

I like were this is going and sounds very fun, very moria like, but still angband.
For the record I've never been fond of pits/nests. I think monster escorts should be limited as well.

I played Quickband recently, and not sure if it is your code or Jeff Greenes but I really love the effects of the stinking cloud spell and wand.

[Antoine]

I played Quickband recently, and not sure if it is your code or Jeff Greenes but I really love the effects of the stinking cloud spell and wand.

All the cool coding in Quick comes from the NPP guys

A.

[Malak Darkhunter]

I had the idea a while back to remove monsters appearing with the Friend flag and in return making that individual monster type more stronger, and worth more experience.

[Antoine]

Post #4 - Consumables

Here is my first cut list of consumables. The list is still longer than I'd wanted but can be pruned further later. You'll notice that some key resources (including stat restoration and all forms of detection) are not available in town and others (temp elemental resistances, >300-point heals, levelporting) are not available at all.

(-) - not guaranteed in shops
(X) - never in shops, except perhaps BM

Potions
CLW
CCW (wounds + cuts only)
Curing (fixes just one status effect, does not restore hp)
Healing (X) (300 HP, 100 SP, all status effects, life levels)
Restoration (X) (fixes the most-drained stat)
Heroism (-)
Speed (X)
Might (gain Str+Con, or restore if drained)
Magic (gain Wis+Int, ")
Youth (gain Dex+Chr, ")

Scrolls
Identify (actually *ID*)
Phase Door
Teleportation
WoR
Enchantment (-) (weapon or armor)
Detect Evil (X)
Detect Doors/Stairs (X)
Mapping (X)

Wands
Stinking Cloud (-)
Confusion (-)
Lightning Bolt (-)
Fireball (-)
Stone to Mud (X)
Teleport Other (X)

Rods
Detect Doors/Stairs/Traps (X)
Detect Monsters (X)
Light (X)

Staffs
Teleportation (X)
Power (X)
the Magi (X) (does not restore Int)
Destruction (X)
Banishment (X)

[Malak Darkhunter]

Just to be curious on the Rod of light, is it a beam of light or actualy a rod of Ilumination? I find those useful for warriors, also could request rods of recall to please

[Antoine]

Just to be curious on the Rod of light, is it a beam of light or actualy a rod of Ilumination? I find those useful for warriors, also could request rods of recall to please

I meant illumination. Is the beam of light indispensable?

Would you rather have scrolls of recall or a dungeon-only rod of recall? Yer can't have both!!

A.

[Malak Darkhunter]

I meant illumination. Is the beam of light indispensable?

Would you rather have scrolls of recall or a dungeon-only rod of recall? Yer can't have both!!

A.

The beam of light is very useful against snaga's cave orcs' jelly's eyes, anything that has the HURT_LIGHT flag. But I eventualy trash it.
The Rod of Illumination I like for warriors to be able to light up the rooms.

If it's the choice between the 2 I guess Scrolls of WOR is more useable, I have something against scrolls and books, hate them getting burned up, might be why I've started liking the warrior Caste

[Mikko Lehtinen]

Might (gain Str+Con, or restore if drained)
Magic (gain Wis+Int, ")
Youth (gain Dex+Chr, ")

In Fay, I named these same stat pairs Vigor, Wit, and Grace. I like your names, too.

[bio_hazard]

I agree that both the beam and the illumination are useful. Why not combine both? Activate, and it checks whether there are three continuous squares within one square of you. If so, Illuminate, if not, it asks for a target.

[Antoine]

In Fay, I named these same stat pairs Vigor, Wit, and Grace. I like your names, too.

The plan is to move to just 3 stats, but I'm moving through an intermediate step of 'anything that affects one of the pair tends to affect the other'

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[Tobias]

Post #4 - Consumables
Might (gain Str+Con, or restore if drained)
Magic (gain Wis+Int, ")
Youth (gain Dex+Chr, ")

Flavor wise those are fine. Gameplay wise maybe switching Con and Dex would make more sense.
As Con is probably the most versatile stat.

[Antoine]

Post #5 - Jewelery and egos

Here is the list of jewelery and ego types. I'm reasonably pleased with these and don't anticipate them needing further pruning.

As noted in a previous post, none of these will be available in town outside the Black Market.

Also note that DSMs now become basetypes rather than egos as in NPP.

Amulets
FA
RDark
RLite
RFear
RPois (deep/rare)
RConf (deep/rare)

Rings
SI
Slaying
Might (+Str/Con)
Magic (+Int/Wis)
Youth (+Dex/Chr)
Speed

Weapons
4 slays
2 brands
Defender (RBase, FA, FFall)
HA (Blessed, Slay Evil, SI, HL, RFear)
+1 blows

Ammo
4 slays
2 brands

Shooters
Might (+1 to +2)
Shots (+1/2 to +1)

Armors
RAcid (hard only)
RBase (robes only)
Stealth (soft only)

Cloaks
RCold
Stealth

Hats
SI
RElec
Magic (+Int/Wis)
ESP

Gloves
Might (+Str/Con)
Agility (+Dex)

Boots
FA
Stealth
Speed

Shields
RFire
RDark + RLite

(No ego lites or diggers.)

[fph]

Hats
RElec

You see a Hard Leather Cap of Grounding [2,+3]?

[Antoine]

You see a Hard Leather Cap of Grounding [2,+3]?

The theory is that the lighting bolt comes down on your head, you see, so a tin hat is useful. Or something like that.

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